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post #11 of 20
Is necessary? No it never really has been. But I would still like to know what your prime95 temps are
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I'm still waiting for OPs load temperatures smile.gif

On a related note, and as others have said, No it is not necessary. I do it, because it was something I wanted to do and enjoyed it enough that I build a second rig less than a year later thumb.gif
 
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Originally Posted by Hogwasher View Post

What are your prime95 temps

Max temps on prime have hit 68 on my current OC. When I was trying to get it to run at 5.0, the temps were starting to soar. I'm good up to 4.8 but as soon as I try to go further the temps go up substantially.
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You are going to get a wide variety of conflicting opinions on the matter, but I will insert mine. I do not think WC is essential in any regard especially with the upcoming and efficient Ivy chips. Manufacturing processes are focusing on producing more efficient and cooler chips in both the CPU and VGA segments. I really only believe that WC is more of an aesthetic thing, and a hobby that you must be passionate about. You can make an awesome and inspiring work of art that will turn heads if you know what to do and what parts to buy.

A decent CPU heatsink / closed cooling solution, and an aftermarket VGA cooler are all you need to have a quiet and fast system. However, as I mentioned, if you want to make your computer truly unique, the option is there with water cooling.

That's pretty much what I was trying to say in my initial post but you did a much better job of it than me. I'm not trying to talk anyone of out water cooling, my motivation for asking was because of some reading I just did on Ivy.
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Originally Posted by Hogwasher View Post

Is necessary? No it never really has been. But I would still like to know what your prime95 temps are

Patience... I wasn't ignoring you, just didn't get to it yet...
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post #15 of 20
If you water cooled you could get a higher overclock at a lower temp. But this is how it's always been. I just cooled both the cpu and gpu on a Rasa 750 rx240 kit. With fans set at the lowest I get load temps on both around 48c
idles around 28-30c. Sometimes lower than that but ambient temps are lower then
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Well what's the point of the question then if you essentially answered your own question? You want to overclock more but temps are too high, enough said. The word overkill only exists for the people who don't know how to reach the limits of the world around them.
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I would make a differentiation between mandatory and necessary. Is it Mandatory, as other's have stated no it's not. But whether it's necessary depends on what you do with your system and how high your tolerance to noise is wink.gif.

For me I feel it's necessary since I do Folding at Home and with the new Work Units, I can either let my GPU hit 90 with fan speed @75%, or have it at 73 degrees or so with a fan speed of 85%. I don't want to do either, so must go WC.
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I would make a differentiation between mandatory and necessary. Is it Mandatory, as other's have stated no it's not. But whether it's necessary depends on what you do with your system and how high your tolerance to noise is wink.gif.
For me I feel it's necessary since I do Folding at Home and with the new Work Units, I can either let my GPU hit 90 with fan speed @75%, or have it at 73 degrees or so with a fan speed of 85%. I don't want to do either, so must go WC.

What brand 570 do you have? In my girls computer she has the evga 570hd, I cleaned and replaced the thermal paste and it maxes at 67c@80% on the new 8k wu's. You may want to look into it. For some reason the fermis have been shipped with really dry thermal paste. On the 570, and my 580 they both had dry, chalky, paste. Most of which flaked off when I went to clean.
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What brand 570 do you have? In my girls computer she has the evga 570hd, I cleaned and replaced the thermal paste and it maxes at 67c@80% on the new 8k wu's. You may want to look into it. For some reason the fermis have been shipped with really dry thermal paste. On the 570, and my 580 they both had dry, chalky, paste. Most of which flaked off when I went to clean.

N570GTX-M2D12D5-OC. It's basically a stock MSI 570 factory overclocked to 786mhz. I've got it up to 850 on .975v. I might try replacing the paste then. Least keep me sane until the XSPC Raystorm kits officially get released wink.gif
post #20 of 20
Liquid cooling will always be more efficient than air (at least, until someone comes up with some solid-at-high-temp, affordable heat superconductors.

Necessary? that depends entirely on how much heat you intend on needing to dissipate. Only you can answer that question.
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