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I love my HAF X, I will never go back to a mATX case. It is so incredibly easy to work inside of my case and routing the cables is a joy as well. Not to mention it looks awesome.
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is there ANY ITX board that you can overclock safely on? aka that has ok VRMs and such? The fact that there is no crossfire with ITX I can deal with, but not being able to use your processor to its full potential is really a dealbreaker for me.

it appears current limitation for ITX overclocking is 4.7ghz. it's decent but nothing like what you can accomplish with a gene-Z. however, the fact is that current generation games are still GPU bottlenecked so the difference between a 4.7ghz OC and 5ghz won't even give you a single FPS advantage... IF you are fixated on OCing as much as possible, then ITX (or even mATX for that matter) isn't really for you. serious OCing really require liquid cooling which isn't what SFF can offer w/o serious modding.

it would be best if you reconsider why you'd need serious OCing to begin with, considering that there is no need to OC to drive a single video card. OCing really comes into play when you are using multiple vid cards where the bottleneck of the GPU is removed from the equation.
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I went from the original HAF932 to my FT03. I love this thing.

Love your FT03 build. I was thinking of getting the silver case but now I've seen yours Im gonna get the black one. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by krisco65 View Post

I love my HAF X, I will never go back to a mATX case. It is so incredibly easy to work inside of my case and routing the cables is a joy as well. Not to mention it looks awesome.

I'm glad you like your HAF-X and sticking with it. It does look awesome, but my taste have changed. It happens to all of us at some point.
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it appears current limitation for ITX overclocking is 4.7ghz. it's decent but nothing like what you can accomplish with a gene-Z. however, the fact is that current generation games are still GPU bottlenecked so the difference between a 4.7ghz OC and 5ghz won't even give you a single FPS advantage... IF you are fixated on OCing as much as possible, then ITX (or even mATX for that matter) isn't really for you. serious OCing really require liquid cooling which isn't what SFF can offer w/o serious modding.
it would be best if you reconsider why you'd need serious OCing to begin with, considering that there is no need to OC to drive a single video card. OCing really comes into play when you are using multiple vid cards where the bottleneck of the GPU is removed from the equation.

I totally agree with you dude. If you are OC'ng like a mofo, I wouldn't go ITX/mATX. Cooling would be my biggest concern. I am sure I will be achieve a nice OC on my next board if I go the Asus RoG mATX route.
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IF you are fixated on OCing as much as possible, then ITX (or even mATX for that matter) isn't really for you. serious OCing really require liquid cooling which isn't what SFF can offer w/o serious modding.

This is the point I am at, I was jus hoping someone could change my mind biggrin.gif
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IF you are fixated on OCing as much as possible, then ITX (or even mATX for that matter) isn't really for you. serious OCing really require liquid cooling which isn't what SFF can offer w/o serious modding.

This is the point I am at, I was jus hoping someone could change my mind biggrin.gif

Pfft who says you can't watercool inside an mITX case? Maybe you won't be able to fit in a 140.4 rad or something but you can easily fit in at least one 120mm rad. The PC-Q08 has a 140mm on the front and enough room to put a 140mm rad. Bitfenix is coming out with a case that can fit a 120.2 rad. Then there is always the Cubitek Mini-Tank that can hold a bunch of rads. thumb.gif
     
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well, i'm not saying its impossible, just saying it'll take alot of work and modding. ITX cases generally have a hard time fitting not just the rads but other components like res and pump as well. it'll take some modding to make room for those components. it also depends on the size of the itx case. a mini tank is "almost" an mATX sized box so at that point, you should ask yourself should you stick with ITX? or maybe move up alittle in size and get a TJ08-E for superior cooling and flexability? not all ITX cases need to be small, (heck i'm using a FT02 with an ITX board biggrin.gif ) but the question comes down to the reason for the ITX to begin with. personally i like ITX form factor due to it's flexibility in future re-purposing. (I intend to make my existing rig a HTPC when I move to Ivybridge) and ITX is the perfect form factor for that re-purposing. ITX board fits in ANY case on the market today since ITX is an ultra minimalist version of the ATX standard.

what it comes down to is, if you use ITX for it's intended use (minor to no OCing) it's a perfectly good form factor. however, if you intend to go HEAVY OCing, then you really shouldn't be using the ITX form factor anyway because current generation computers are GPU bottlenecked anyway. even if you put a 7990 in the system, you still wouldn't need to OC the CPU to use that card fully. and that IS the ultimate limitation of the ITX form factor since it only has 1 expansion slot.
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I used to run my Phenom x6 1090T at 4.2 for a while. Then I decided to bring it back to stock last week. I don't think I will do crazy overclocks with my next set up.

Hey psyclum, this build really impressed the crap out of me, especially since its ITX:
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I just finished a build I've been working on for a customer. He requested a system to fulfill these requirements.
  • small
  • lightweight
  • very powerful
  • unique
  • cutting edge gaming performance
If you like what you see here, be sure to check out the full build log for details smile.gif
This is what the layout looks like prior to putting in the optical drive tray....it's a really tight squeeze!
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And here are the final shots of the system. The customer is planning to replace the feet with something a bit more athetically pleasing once he finds something he likes.

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I welcome your comments and criticisms smile.gif




http://www.overclock.net/t/1166133/the-most-extreme-mini-itx-gaming-rig-youve-ever-seen-max11lv3/0_100#post_15662313
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I am working on re-tubing my TJ08 and I will post pics tonight
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Hey psyclum, this build really impressed the crap out of me, especially since its ITX:

i think the ONLY things in that case that didn't require modding are the screws and the standoffs biggrin.gif
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