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Hello ever body let me just start off by saying how thankful i am to have found theses forums, they have been a great help!.I have been reading and looking into building a gaming rig for a while now and would like some opinions on it.. I don't have much money to sink into it and i am not looking for the for the fastest pc ever but i would like a pc that can run skyrim on at least the medium settings without having any trouble.i am trying to keep the rig cost to < $400 not including monitior/os/kb/mouse. i read a thread on here about a guy who made a $340 gaming machine and i am following his guidliunes, but i have a few questions. first let me show the build

Ram-Corsair Vengeance 4GB DDR3 -$25

psu-Cooler Master Elite Series 460 Watts -$40

GPU- a used xfx radeon hd 4850-$50 (150 new)


mobo- asus m4a87td/usb3-$105

cpu- amd athlon II x4 quad core 2.8ghz-$90

case- just click here-25

hdd- a used western caviar blue 160gb-$36

cpu cooler-COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO-40


is it ok to buy the GPU used? it will save me $100. also will the CPU be fast enough to meet my needs? i began wit the phenom x4 but it was $125, so that will save me a nice chunk. Would there be any cheaper motherboard options that would not effect my gaming but would be cheaper? have any suggestions or thought?
i am typing this using a 2002 dell dimension 9100 so anything is a upgrade from this.
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I'm running skyrim on ultra at about 55 fps with my rig. so, you'rs would run atleast high. My 4870 is used btw. my only suggestion is a different case and possibly a larger psu. i'm partial/biased towards to mine, but they have an upgraded version. Antec 302.
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looks good so far for what your wanting, Depends on who and where you buy used parts from, most games only require a dual core CPU, I wouldn't try to cheap out to much on a MB the one you picked is fine, You might look on the For sale forums here and see what yo can find sometimes you can find a cheap CPU/MB combo for around 150.00 from members that upgrade LOL monthly.

the case will work fine until you can mod it alittle to allow more airflow
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thanks for the imput I think i am going to swap out the mobo/ cpu for this though

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.841789

also is there a psu that is around the price range of my current one that would be better?
post #5 of 40
all is fine
i would recommend getting this memory for example
many people are using corsair memory, but in my several encounters with corsair memory, it caused nothing but trouble
g.skill 4gb 1333mhz 20 USD on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421

the motherboard you are looking at is pretty good, so stick with it unless you get a good deal on something else then think about it and ask away:)
all in all that motherboard is great

the power supply will do
there are a lot better ones but this will suffice

cpu cooler is good, but this one is better and i recommend it over hyper 212
zalman performa 36 usd on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059

hdd- i can understand it, it is small but it costs more for something better
it will probably be the thing that lessens your overall experience working on a pc
it will do for first hand - i recomment new hdd to be your next upgrade:)

used 4850 is also good, the cpu you are getting can handle lot better cards, so later down the road you can change that 4850 with a more powerfull one if and when you feel the need to:)
do not get new 4850 now days it makes no sense it is overpriced new in store

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thanks for the imput I think i am going to swap out the mobo/ cpu for this though
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.841789
also is there a psu that is around the price range of my current one that would be better?

i actually think that is the lesser choice over the amd mbo and cpu you listed first

also forgot to say-the case will probably annoy you pretty much if it doesn't have space for graphics card, but if you want a nice case that has a enough of room you would have to pay quite a bit more than for this one, so here is to hoping it is spacy enough (it probably has just enough room for medium length cards, but something like gtx 260 which is quite a bit long probably would have issues fitting in there)
Edited by Deathclaw - 3/3/12 at 4:41pm
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alright thanks for the info what do you think about the other cpu/mobo i posted ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.841789

it is $5 more and it seams to be better on benchmarks
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all is fine
i would recommend getting this memory for example
many people are using corsair memory, but in my several encounters with corsair memory, it caused nothing but trouble
g.skill 4gb 1333mhz 20 USD on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421
the motherboard you are looking at is pretty good, so stick with it unless you get a good deal on something else then think about it and ask away:)
all in all that motherboard is great
the power supply will do
there are a lot better ones but this will suffice
cpu cooler is good, but this one is better and i recommend it over hyper 212
zalman performa 36 usd on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059
hdd- i can understand it, it is small but it costs more for something better
it will probably be the thing that lessens your overall experience working on a pc
it will do for first hand - i recomment new hdd to be your next upgrade:)
used 4850 is also good, the cpu you are getting can handle lot better cards, so later down the road you can change that 4850 with a more powerfull one if and when you feel the need to:)
do not get new 4850 now days it makes no sense it is overpriced new in store
i actually think that is the lesser choice over the amd mbo and cpu you listed first
also forgot to say-the case will probably annoy you pretty much if it doesn't have space for graphics card, but if you want a nice case that has a enough of room you would have to pay quite a bit more than for this one, so here is to hoping it is spacy enough (it probably has just enough room for medium length cards, but something like gtx 260 which is quite a bit long probably would have issues fitting in there)

yeah i went with that case because it was so cheap. could you explain why the first mobo/cpu would be better? is it due to it being quad core?
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d00d..is this thread from 2009? what's going on here rolleyes.gif
 
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thanks for the imput I think i am going to swap out the mobo/ cpu for this though
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.841789
also is there a psu that is around the price range of my current one that would be better?
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yeah i went with that case because it was so cheap. could you explain why the first mobo/cpu would be better? is it due to it being quad core?

yes, because it probably will be better all round

but honestly
if you want really great thing i would go for cheaper mbo like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176
and get beast of a cpu
like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995

the mbo i listed doesn't have usb 3.0 if you care about that, and cannot fit the newest am3+ processors from amd (but they suck anyway so you don't care:))

edit:
and that is much much much better choice than any of the above
and if you have luck you might even unlock that cpu to 6 core (allthough don't count on it for sure since it is only up to luck)

edit2:
don't know what would be your pricerange on mbo and cpu, so you could choose a more expensive/better mbo, allthough this would be my choice if i wanted to save some cash on mbo
Edited by Deathclaw - 3/3/12 at 4:56pm
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yes, because it probably will be better all round
but honestly
if you want really great thing i would go for cheaper mbo like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176
and get beast of a cpu
like this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995
the mbo i listed doesn't have usb 3.0 if you care about that, and cannot fit the newest am3+ processors from amd (but they suck anyway so you don't care:))

neither of those bother me and that sounds like a good idea.will even shave some off my total

EDIT: that mobo has gotten some awfull reviews
Edited by james325 - 3/3/12 at 4:58pm
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