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What is this AMD processor, really?

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#1 ·
My brother was searching info on engineering sample cpus on cpu-z validation, when he use this keyword "engineering sample site:valid.canardpc.com" (without quotes), he found this

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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2026076

there's no codename at all!
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The strangest thing is this :

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CPU Arch : 4 CPU - 1 Cores - 1 Threads
so, what's this amd processor, is this trinity with disabled cores?
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#2 ·
A75 chipset... Something APU
Maybe Piledriver APU sample?

All I know is that it is Socket FM1
 
#6 ·
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No way that this is possible. 8GHz with less than a volt? Looks like an error.
And 8647.8=0x200?

I would also guess Piledriver.
 
#9 ·
Probably an error.. But it has a validation. weird. ha

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Yes, i'm.
I'm new here, and what's wrong with indonesia?
Nothing, he's just being quick to judge.
 
#12 ·
The core speed numbers look suspect. The 8 is too close to the 6. The spacing is off. I can only assume that its a poorly done Paintshop pic.
 
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The core speed numbers look suspect. The 8 is too close to the 6. The spacing is off. I can only assume that its a poorly done Paintshop pic.
You can't mod validations from what I've seen.
 
#20 ·
The Ext Family, Ext Model and Stepping tell us everything.

Ext. Family 12 = Llano
Ext. Model 1 Stepping 0 = B-0 Stepping (Model 0 Stepping 1 would be A-1, etc, though this is only true for recent AMD CPUs)

Certain versions of CPU-Z had issues correctly recognizing Llano, especially its baseclock speed and number of cores. This led to numerous erroneous reports of exceedingly high clock potential. This is likely what is happening here. It's strange that it's happening with CPU-Z 1.58, but those issues may only have been corrected for retail CPUs, and not for engineering samples.

FYI, Family 10 is anything from barcelona to thuban, Family 14 is Zacate, and Family 15 is for bulldozer based CPUs. A Trinity ES might fall under Family 15, but I suspect it will fall under an entirely new family.

So there you have it, this is a B-0 Llano Engineering Sample. You can compare this cpu-z of an A8-3870K.
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#21 ·
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Originally Posted by gplnpsb View Post

The Ext Family, Ext Model and Stepping tell us everything.
Ext. Family 12 = Llano
Ext. Model 1 Stepping 0 = B-0 Stepping (Model 0 Stepping 1 would be A-1, etc, though this is only true for recent AMD CPUs)
Certain versions of CPU-Z had issues correctly recognizing Llano, especially its baseclock speed and number of cores. This led to numerous erroneous reports of exceedingly high clock potential. This is likely what is happening here. It's strange that it's happening with CPU-Z 1.58, but those issues may only have been corrected for retail CPUs, and not for engineering samples.
FYI, Family 10 is anything from barcelona to thuban, Family 14 is Zacate, and Family 15 is for bulldozer based CPUs. A Trinity ES might fall under Family 15, but I suspect it will fall under an entirely new family.
So there you have it, this is a B-0 Llano Engineering Sample. You can compare this cpu-z of an A8-3870K.
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So, this might be a new Llano processor, right?

And I have another Zacate processor with 0 nm below

Image to compare:
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2026076

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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1651576
 
#22 ·
your cpu-z is changing speeds live on the forum?
 
#24 ·
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So appropriate, and so awesome. Love that picture.
 
#25 ·
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So, this might be a new Llano processor, right?
And I have another Zacate processor with 0 nm below
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Well, in theory it could be, though I think it far more likely that its just a sample from early in the year when they got B-0 silicon back. You have to ask why they'd be creating new Llano engineering samples in October 2011 (other than say a qualification sample of a speed bump, which would probably have proper branding in the CPU Specification box. One possibility would be a new dual core die, but I haven't heard anything more about that other than rumors when Llano was first released. That possibility is vetoed by the fact that your image is of a quad core processor. It simply doesn't make sense for AMD to be spending precious engineering time on Llano now, with Trinity relatively close to release.
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your cpu-z is changing speeds live on the forum?
It seems so. Apparently the image I got from Hardware Canucks was an animated gif.
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by gplnpsb View Post

Well, in theory it could be, though I think it far more likely that its just a sample from early in the year when they got B-0 silicon back. You have to ask why they'd be creating new Llano engineering samples in October 2011 (other than say a qualification sample of a speed bump, which would probably have proper branding in the CPU Specification box. One possibility would be a new dual core die, but I haven't heard anything more about that other than rumors when Llano was first released. That possibility is vetoed by the fact that your image is of a quad core processor. It simply doesn't make sense for AMD to be spending precious engineering time on Llano now, with Trinity relatively close to release.
Maybe another A8 ? The A8-3870K?
 
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