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Hmmm... lets see.. thinking.gif
Chicken pox
Diphtheria
HiB Disease
Measles
Pertussis
Polio
Tetanus
Typhoid
Smallpox
Guess you just need to be vaccinated...

Those are all very old and still are around today. I really think if they wanted to they could make it so no one would ever get any of those ever again. But they dont want to.
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Those are all very old and still are around today. I really think if they wanted to they could make it so no one would ever get any of those ever again. But they dont want to.

Yes, they are old and at one point most had been declared erradicated. Then, some misguilded folk decided not to have their kids immunised and guess what... they're back Lets not confuse greed with stupidity smile.gif
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Yes, they are old and at one point most had been declared erradicated. Then, some misguilded folk decided not to have their kids immunised and guess what... they're back Lets not confuse greed with stupidity smile.gif

lol you got that right... I don't see why you wouldn't want to get your child vaccinated....
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Sometimes some people are ahead of their time and they are forced, corrupted or simply stopped to not continue their researches.

My cousin is working for one of the top pharmaceutics company (can't remember the name, although it's the one that sold the H1N1 vaccine). He is a statistician, he's the one who check what is the cheapest and best economical solution in short and long term. So the medication has to be effective but not too much. He compares different medication and he chooses which one will be the best in term of financial investment (because it is all about this). It has to be effective but that's not the top priority, sadly.
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I don't claim to be a point of reference, but it is obvious that some people posting do not understand medicine or disease.

To think that the common cold should be easy to eradicate because it is common and benign illustrates your misconceptions. I think that people should censor themselves before talking about medicine and biology unless you know what you are talking about, because it creates misunderstanding.

Because the study reached these findings in 2010, some of you assume no one heard about it because big Pharma was busy sniping scientists out of black helicopters and censoring the news, without a thought that it takes more than 2 years to go from lab results to store shelves.

Anyone followed up on the research or are you all just assuming that some operatives have been hush hushing this behind our backs?
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I don't claim to be a point of reference, but it is obvious that some people posting do not understand medicine or disease.
To think that the common cold should be easy to eradicate because it is common and benign illustrates your misconceptions. I think that people should censor themselves before talking about medicine and biology unless you know what you are talking about, because it creates misunderstanding.
Because the study reached these findings in 2010, some of you assume no one heard about it because big Pharma was busy sniping scientists out of black helicopters and censoring the news, without a thought that it takes more than 2 years to go from lab results to store shelves.
Anyone followed up on the research or are you all just assuming that some operatives have been hush hushing this behind our backs?

1970

This is known since 1970 if you actually read the posts.

Pharmaceutics employ researchers, what ever is their results they decide what to do with it. As I said above, what is the actual benefit of spending 5-10 years to develop a medication, 10 extra years to test it if it gets approval for human testing? Little to none until the number of cases increase along with market competition.
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Sounds like he is doing a better job then folding does thumb.gif
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Sounds like he is doing a better job then folding does thumb.gif

Maybe he had a little help... tongue.gif

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-Diseases
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Maybe he had a little help... tongue.gif
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-Diseases

i know what folding is... why else would I make that comment?

but nothing is stating that he is/was helped by folding or if it did i missed that part
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1970
This is known since 1970 if you actually read the posts.
Pharmaceutics employ researchers, what ever is their results they decide what to do with it. As I said above, what is the actual benefit of spending 5-10 years to develop a medication, 10 extra years to test it if it gets approval for human testing? Little to none until the number of cases increase along with market competition.

The point is that at the beginning it's not a medication, and it can be dangerous. For the former point, it takes years of work to figure out the correct dosing and preparation method. After preparation, there's also the setup for large scale manufacturing. You might think this is trivial but it's not; making a couple grams for lab use is a completely different beast than making thousands of kilograms for worldwide distribution. But even before the manufacturing stage, there's a lot of pharmacology that needs to be done to determine the effective dosage, as well as the tolerance for an overdose. See Jesse Gelsinger for an example of why determining appropriate dosage is important. After the company gets its preparation in order, the drug (and the prep process) has to be approved by regulatory agencies. See thalidomide for a classic example of why.

Your last point is ridiculous for two reasons:

1: The number of cases isn't really increasing. Cancer isn't a new disease; there's basically a steady state of new case vs. deaths. You can argue that the total number of cases increases with the world's population, but there's a huge patient pool already that needs treatments. There's more than enough of a market to sell a cancer cure, if they actually had it.

2: Why in the world is it advantageous for a company to wait 10 extra years if market competition goes up in those 10 years?

People on OCN have ridiculous misconceptions about big pharma. Yes, they profit off sickness. Yes, they exist to pay their shareholders. No, they're not withholding cures for HIV, flu, and cancer(s). If they had a cure, they would sell it. There aren't enough rich people in the world to sustain an economy based on fending off the inevitable. You guys should really think deeply about the issue and not just spout back talking points. If a drug goes out untested, you scream "I Am Legend". If it gets tested first, you yell "Big Pharma Conspiracy". If you think it's so easy to make a cure, why don't you go try to do it?
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