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So, once I get some of the stuff sold from my old PC, and/or when I sell my Proliant ML570 G2 (with quad CPU upgrade, no less) I'm going to (or at least try to) build a beastly watercooled SFF PC for LANning, for as cheap as possible. I will be using used parts as well as new ones too.
So far I chosen these things:
Case: Aerocool Qx-2000
CPU: Intel Core i3 2100
GPU: GTX295 Dual PCB
Mobo: ASRock Z68M USB3 (I plan to upgrade the system to a 2500K and/or Ivy Bridge at a later date)
Cooler (for now, until I can afford a full loop): Corsair H60

Any recommendations for completing this parts list?.
Edited by BodenM - 3/6/12 at 1:51pm
 
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The benefits of newer hardware is that they give more performance per watt, meaning if you aim for similar performance, your PSU requirements go down quite a bit. Heat output also goes down. If you are willing to give up liquid cooling, you'd probably have the budget to do a much faster and more energy efficient rig.
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when water cooling and on the cheap is in the same sentence, i think i die a little bit inside!!!
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The benefits of newer hardware is that they give more performance per watt, meaning if you aim for similar performance, your PSU requirements go down quite a bit. Heat output also goes down. If you are willing to give up liquid cooling, you'd probably have the budget to do a much faster and more energy efficient rig.
I've taken that idea onboard, so now instead of going for a a full custom loop, I'll be using a H80 or H60 (not sure which right now), which I can get for less than $100. The custom loop can come later.
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when water cooling and on the cheap is in the same sentence, i think i die a little bit inside!!!
I was going to get some used parts from the OCN boards, as well as some new parts.

I've chosen on a dual PCB GTX295 instead of a 4870x2, so that's out of the way. I've had to change the case too, so I've chosen an Aerocool QX-2000.
Edited by BodenM - 3/6/12 at 1:40am
 
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that aerocool is a HUGE case, there are better cases that have better thermal design.

to reenforce what Zap has said about using newer tech. have you considered maybe a 7770 paired with an i3? it will give you MUCH better thermal/acoustical signature then what you had in mind. if you cant afford to build a powerful system, what is the logic behind going with liquid? air cooling is a far superior solution when doing a budget build.
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that aerocool is a HUGE case, there are better cases that have better thermal design.
to reenforce what Zap has said about using newer tech. have you considered maybe a 7770 paired with an i3? it will give you MUCH better thermal/acoustical signature then what you had in mind. if you cant afford to build a powerful system, what is the logic behind going with liquid? air cooling is a far superior solution when doing a budget build.

The 7770 is pretty crappy value, even when thinking about power draw. For the same price, I can get a 6870 or 6850, which runs faster anyway. I will probably go for the i3 though, because they do draw a crapload less power than LGA775 CPUs. Also, I'm not really too concerned with noise, with my parents watching TV at the volume they normally watch it at, I could fill this case with hoverfans/finger-choppers (the infamous Delta fans) and still not be able to hear the PC. In regards to the case, the problem is that MicroATX tower cases (IMHO) defeat the purpose of mATX, considering usually they're not that much smaller than a mid tower. Also, so far, this is the only mATX cube case I've found that has a 120mm fan intake, and doesn't cost $130+ (looking at you, Lian Li). Also, I've found that air cooling and small cube cases don't really gel. Our family PC lives in a Armor A30, and even with the 190mm and 2 60mm exhausts, the case still gets really warm. At least with the Qx I can chuck in a Delta finger-chopper and be done with it. Later on I can also use both the 120mm intake and the 2 80mm fan holes on the lower deck as intakes with radiators for water cooling, and leave the top deck's 80mm hole as exhaust, creating a sort of positive pressure within the case.
 
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Our family PC lives in a Armor A30, and even with the 190mm and 2 60mm exhausts, the case still gets really warm.

That's because it is a crappy case. Get a mini tower with real airflow and your stuff will magically run cooler.
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Our family PC lives in a Armor A30, and even with the 190mm and 2 60mm exhausts, the case still gets really warm.

That's because it is a crappy case. Get a mini tower with real airflow and your stuff will magically run cooler.

I know that, but I don't want a mini tower, otherwise I'd be getting an Arc Mini.

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well, it seems you've got your mind set before you even came here biggrin.gif

i'll just put in a final recommendation and leave you to your own choices. from an internal volume point of view, the TJ08-E is smaller and offer FAR superior cooling then the Qx-2000. what you end up doing and the results you end up having is all yours to make/blame biggrin.gif
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well, it seems you've got your mind set before you even came here biggrin.gif

i'll just put in a final recommendation and leave you to your own choices. from an internal volume point of view, the TJ08-E is smaller and offer FAR superior cooling then the Qx-2000. what you end up doing and the results you end up having is all yours to make/blame biggrin.gif
Indeed. Do you guys think it's worth dropping the money on a Maximus IV Gene-Z Gen3? I'll be upgrading to an Ivy Bridge i7 3770K when it comes out (or later), as well as doing a multi-GPU setup.

EDIT: Well, since ASUS is bringing out a Maximus V Gene, so for now I'm going to get a H61 mobo and an i3.

-- Sent from my HP TouchPad. Please excuse any brevity or typos.
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