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If anyone read my thread from yesterday, I'm building an awesome x79 system for someone. There will be enough money left over that I want to put together a very simple build for my GF while I'm at it. She does not game at all, no video editing, or anything like that and there won't be any OCing. Just internet, work stuff, etc. Probably the thing she does the most is watch Youtube videos. I know I could just grab something prebuilt for very little cost, but I don't want that. What I want is a relatively small case in an 1155 platform. I know almost nothing about the 2000 and 3000 series graphics on the SB CPUs, but I was thinking I'd just go with that instead of a dedicated GPU since she doesn't game. I was looking through the CPUs and I have to go with the 2500K to get the 3000 graphics. The 2500 only has the 2000 graphics. The price difference isn't much, but I'm assuming the 3000 is the way to go over the 2000? Someone correct me if I am wrong, please. I want to build this with a very simple approach, but still maintain somewhat of an upgrade path just in case. I already have a monitor, HDD, keyboard, and mouse.

So, I'm thinking this board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157270
I can always add a GPU later with this board if it becomes needed.

I am clueless on the case, but I like the look of these two, both come with power supplies:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144229
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811192087

I'm thinking I'd throw 8GB of Ram in it only because its cheap. She won't need that much, by why not?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569

With Windows7 and a basic optical drive, I should be able to get this thing built for under $600. Am I on the right path for what I want? Anyone have a better direction to steer me in? My only thing is I want to stay with Intel, no AMD. That's just personal preference, nothing else.

Are the onboard graphics really good enough for basic stuff? Would I be better off just adding a cheap GPU? Should I go with an H61 board, or stay with Z68 for the possible (albeit unlikely) upgrade path?

Thanks in advance
Edited by Lou3824 - 3/4/12 at 11:52am
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The onboard graphics on a pentium dual core is enough to do anything on the net, watch blu-ray video, and even play minecraft or other simpler 3d games.

If you arent familiar, a pentium dual core is essentially a core 2 duo with a gimped version of an original core i3's graphics tacked on.

Still think you need 3000 series graphics? (or a dedicated gpu for that matter?)
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The onboard graphics on a pentium dual core is enough to do anything on the net, watch blu-ray video, and even play minecraft or other simpler 3d games.

If you arent familiar, a pentium dual core is essentially a core 2 duo with a gimped version of an original core i3's graphics tacked on.

Still think you need 3000 series graphics? (or a dedicated gpu for that matter?)

Guess not, but that's why I asked. I'm probably going to stick with the 2500K though as the price difference isn't much at all and it allows me options for anything I want to do in the future. So the 3000 series are going to give me everything I need with ease then?
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Guess not, but that's why I asked. I'm probably going to stick with the 2500K though as the price difference isn't much at all and it allows me options for anything I want to do in the future. So the 3000 series are going to give me everything I need with ease then?

Yes the 3000 will be more than enough for anything basic. In fact any modern i3 would probably be a better fit for this build.

Haven't actually looked at prices though so if the 2500k's price doesn't matter to you, why not, it'll make it last that much longer.

Same deal with the ram actually. 6GB would be more than enough but of course 8 doesn't hurt anything if price isn't an issue.

I would not suggest either of those cases. Apevia is pretty much lowest-quality until you get into cardboard boxes and dell cases. For the price those cost it simply isnt worth it, there are much nicer ones for the same cost.
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I would stick with the 2500k simply because you'll have the better onboard graphics and if you needed to add a GPU later (if you upgrade yours or decide you want to sell the rig). Even though the prebuilds might be better suited, I've always built mine just so I know what's in them.
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in this case, the only reason i would get the I5 2500k is becuase of the HD3000 iGPU, you could save abit and just get her the I5 2500 tho its only HD2000 for the iGPU.. but you only save like $15. i would stay with that asrock z68 you looked at, that a pretty good price. tho you could take that $15 and put it towards a ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 which will give you a better paltform for an IB cpu down the track thumb.gif just some ide to consider
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here's a nice small build tongue.gif on the edge of your cost though but that's probably because I'm in Canada and US prices are cheaper ><<br />
Here's what I could do (all prices before tax in Canadian dollers and canadian prices) BTW I aimed for the specific size and ascetics. Lots of places where you can reduce prices in my buildout but I dunno i figured might as well build you something okay in the price range so you'd have a good idea of what's possible.
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price: $560.43

The slow load could be replaced with a standard laptop like drive which are generally cheaper and you always have ebay as an alternative. That silverstone I have and it comes with everything you need to get it working. The case can be replaced with it's 300W little brother who is cheaper for this build will work no prob, I just have the 450W selected because that'll handle most dedicated cards up to something like the 560Ti or the 6950 I believe without any problems since other people report to be using those. Alternatively, you can forget about this mini concept and go with a mATX which is a buttload cheaper.

Obvious change outs keeping the same case is to get the 300W version, 1333MHz ram, 4GB would be cheaper, DVD drive can be changed, mobo could be switched for any mitx mobo that's cheaper, any cpu that fits.


http://www.dytronix.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=81_83&products_id=1115 is a alt. dvd 30.67
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Price: $508.22

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Same idea as the first one shown at the top

if you wanted to convert those to an i5, for this case/build it'd recommend something like i5 version (Click to show)
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Price: $710.48

This is a why the f not type of build though. The mITX build on the z68 side is more expensive and the ASRocks I know can OC decently while the other's I read don't do very well (zotac). I have something most similar to this one just not the sugo (sg05) instead it's a custom case for me, so mine was much cheaper to build out and I have 8GB of DDR3 1333MHz ram instead of 1600.
<-- overclocks decently but $


Only problem I see is the cpu cooler, I'm wondering which one would be good in that case. The stock should work though, just can't remember.


All the builds need a HDD/SSD I'd just recommend a cheap ssd atm unless you can find a good hdd deal, in this case I'd probably recommend the ssd though (60-120$ is what u'd expect for 60-128GB).

EDIT;

I'll almost guarantee that you'll find better prices in the states
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If you're willing to spend that much more on a Core i5 2500K over a Core i3, then I'm guessing the GPU matters that much to you?

If so, have you considered an AMD APU?

I personally see no reason in getting a Core i5 2500K merely for it's iGPU. I'd either save the money and get a lesser model with the HD 2000 series, or save the money and get a much better iGPU with an AMD APU at the cost of some CPU power.

If you're set on an Intel Core i5 for the better CPU performance and some fair GPU performance, at least wait for Ivy Bridge (Core i5 35x0K). It's bringing a much improved iGPU on top of the HD 3000 series.

So, either way you spin it, I can't recommend the oft recommended Core i5 2500K for you.
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If you arent familiar, a pentium dual core is essentially a core 2 duo with a gimped version of an original core i3's graphics tacked on.
Like the Celeron, there's different Pentium Dual-cores. None of the Core 2-based Pentiums or Pentium Dual-cores have iGPUs though. They relied on whatever the motherboard chipset they were paired with had. The current ones are essentially Core i3s gimped further (no Hyper-threading and less cache).
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If you're willing to spend that much more on a Core i5 2500K over a Core i3, then I'm guessing the GPU matters that much to you?
If so, have you considered an AMD APU?
I personally see no reason in getting a Core i5 2500K merely for it's iGPU. I'd either save the money and get a lesser model with the HD 2000 series, or save the money and get a much better iGPU with an AMD APU at the cost of some CPU power.
If you're set on an Intel Core i5 for the better CPU performance and some fair GPU performance, at least wait for Ivy Bridge (Core i5 35x0K). It's bringing a much improved iGPU on top of the HD 3000 series.
So, either way you spin it, I can't recommend the oft recommended Core i5 2500K for you.Like the Celeron, there's different Pentium Dual-cores. None of the Core 2-based Pentiums or Pentium Dual-cores have iGPUs though. They relied on whatever the motherboard chipset they were paired with had. The current ones are essentially Core i3s gimped further (no Hyper-threading and less cache).

I agree, I am tempted to recommend you a simple A8-3870k combo because the RAM + CPU + Mobo comes to 230 before tax easily... >< toss a 20$ dvd + 50$ case + psu a nice ssd or hdd (60-180?) + windows 7 home prem (80-120 depending). You have enough money to get a cheap monitor as well if you think 600 before tax else you should be within your budget.


Only saying combo because it's readily available you have alternatives and they prob just as good tongue.gif

At the last bit to your reply the pentium still work tho, and the celerons aren't that far behind i think (no proof just a thought)
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all of these cpus have the 3000HD graphics http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671+600095610+600265637&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=343&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=
 
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