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And if AMD priced these cards the same as 6000 series, what would 1. AMD do with all the old cards - just give them away? 2. What would Nvidia do? $250 580 1.5GB, $300 580 3GB? And then there's the issue of fitting the 570 at the $220 mark, 560 Ti at the $165 mark... you guys, come on now. 4000 series released with the 4870 at $300, 5000 series with 5870 at $400. Both ended up below $200. AMD has a lead, blame Nvidia for the higher pricing.
And it's not like anyone would pay $450 for a GTX 580 when you can get a 7950 for the same price that's maybe 15-20% faster factoring in max OC vs max OC.. and it comes with more VRAM. And then you have the 7870 at $350 that almost certainly ties, if not beats a 580 at max OC vs max OC. Go Nvidia if you think AMD's pricing is bad thumb.gif

1GHz -> 1.2Ghz its 20% OC. GTX580 @ 770Mhz can OC ~ 925Mhz Thats ~ 20% Also. GTX580 is faster at stock so in reality it will never beat GTX580.
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As far as performance goes, I don't see how anybody can complain about AMD's pricing. With what's out there, you get more for your money so I don't see what the argument is about.

What I don't like, is how there's nothing worth mentioning between $250 and $110 in the 7000 series lineup as the 7770 is currently a horrible price/performance card and not worth considering right now.
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yes they are bit pricey but when you look at the fact that when they are overclocked they are only an avg of 8% slower than a 7970 that cost 550-609

This is perhaps the most awesome card in the universe.

i think we are going to be an amd and intel with amd and nvidia.

No doubt kelper will be a good card.... BUT!

amd will already have their new series ready shortly...

Also amds income is much higher than nvidia
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1GHz -> 1.2Ghz its 20% OC. GTX580 @ 770Mhz can OC ~ 925Mhz Thats ~ 20% Also. GTX580 is faster at stock so in reality it will never beat GTX580.

Wait until the MSi TFIII 7870 comes out. These are just reference model cards, OCing to that with no voltage tweaks. And the memory got OC'd quite a bit as well - 4800mhz to 5800mhz according to one review (might've been for the 7850, but still).
 
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THE GTX 580 is a power hungry last generation top model nvidia card

aka its junk now , get over it.

and overclock these beat a gtx 580 is some cases, which is just sad...
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Wow... way to be productive on your post there bud. No elaboration or anything. I wasn't even being THAT GUY like someone else said. I just said AMD needs to compete a little more rather than play it safe. I thought that was a widely known fact.

The 7870 has 2gb vram and the 570gtx has 1260 for only 50$ more. Good god you cant figure this out?
    
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THE GTX 580 is a power hungry last generation top model nvidia card
aka its junk now , get over it.
and overclock these beat a gtx 580 is some cases, which is just sad...

LMAO - the 580 / 6970 is hardly junk now as the performance can still handle current gaming all the way up to VRAM hungry BF3.

It's between 7870 & 7950 perfomance are they junk too? Hardly. smile.gif
     
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The 7870 has 2gb vram and the 570gtx has 1260 for only 50$ more. Good god you cant figure this out?

If I didn't know better, I'd say you were attempting to insult my intelligence. Of course, you're not because only mature people post on these forums, right? At least, I would hope so. Try not to make people on here think otherwise.

At 1080P, 1280MB vs. 2GB of RAM makes very little difference. We saw this in the last generation of cards as well. That's the market that this card is aimed at. I'm sort of surprised that anyone uses Vram as metric of performance or value anymore. It just doesn't matter at 1080P or below, and above 1080P is usually the uber enthusiast market, so users will get higher-end cards or multiple cards.

Gotta give you an A for effort though. thumb.gif
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After seeing the 7970 Lightning, I wonder if MSI plans to release a Lightning version for the 7870 thinking.gif
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Pre-order pricing of around £200 for a stock model also seems reasonable considering the HD 6950 2GB can still be found for around £210 and the GTX 560 Ti 1GB for around £180. The result is that, for the first time since the release of the GTX 460 1GB back in summer 2010 , there really isn’t an Nvidia card on the market right now we can recommend; AMD’s salvo of 28nm parts has made Nvidia’s line-up look decidedly dated.

As with the HD 7870 2GB, we’ll hold fire on delivering a definitive review score until we get our hands on retail samples, but needless to say we’re very impressed so far with both the HD 7800 series cards. Nvidia will need to deliver its own 28nm Kepler GPUs soon to avoid being left behind.

Wow...

How much is this 7850 going to cost in American Dollars, anyone know?

That 7850 is looking extremely tempting!
Edited by _GTech - 3/5/12 at 12:21pm
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