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Lucky, it is only 350$ for you. In Slovakia they are asking 350 Euros for it.
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If I didn't know better, I'd say you were attempting to insult my intelligence. Of course, you're not because only mature people post on these forums, right? At least, I would hope so. Try not to make people on here think otherwise.
At 1080P, 1280MB vs. 2GB of RAM makes very little difference. We saw this in the last generation of cards as well. That's the market that this card is aimed at. I'm sort of surprised that anyone uses Vram as metric of performance or value anymore. It just doesn't matter at 1080P or below, and above 1080P is usually the uber enthusiast market, so users will get higher-end cards or multiple cards.
Gotta give you an A for effort though. thumb.gif

If you SLI/Crossfire 2 570's, or 2 7870's, you're effectively only using 1.2GB or 2GB of VRAM, respectively. So perhaps it's valid to consider something with a little more than 1.2GB at that performance level - maybe 1.5GB is more reasonably. Although, indeed, there's 0 difference between the 580 1.5GB and 580 3GB for SLI at dual-1080p monitors.
 
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If you SLI/Crossfire 2 570's, or 2 7870's, you're effectively only using 1.2GB or 2GB of VRAM, respectively. So perhaps it's valid to consider something with a little more than 1.2GB at that performance level - maybe 1.5GB is more reasonably. Although, indeed, there's 0 difference between the 580 1.5GB and 580 3GB for SLI at dual-1080p monitors.

THAT is infact the one exception to my post. In Crossfire, I would expect the 7870 and 7850 to scale better than the GTX 570 or GTX 580 in SLI. If you're going multi-GPU, I would definitely get a pair of HD 7870's as opposed to an equivalent Nvidia setup. As for single card usage, I'm still not impressed with the current price point and proposed MSRP of any of the 7xxx series of cards.

My original post was a poke at AMD for not pushing the envelope on price. The performance of these cards is exceptional. I just wish they would be a little more appealing on the price front of things.
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AMD's Radeon HD 7000-series onslaught continues, with still no 28nm retort from NVIDIA. The latest offerings are the 7870 priced at $349, and the 7850 priced at $249.

Not Bad, I think I'll get the 7850, seems to do well in BF3 too!

The Performance of the 7870 is rather nice but $350 is a bit much to me..

I think all cards need to drop 50% in price, then you would see a lot more people buying them like mad!

We need another price war, looks like this 7850 may start one, so if NVIDIA starts dropping prices, look out, people may swing over there to pick up some cards!

Yay!
Edited by _GTech - 3/5/12 at 12:27pm
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HD 7850 looks good. But I'll have to wait.
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I like how a good number of you still discount the larger point of this article and simply stated:

"Decent performance for a mid-range card." or "Not bad."

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See the thing about this is, as stated in Guru3D's article summary, AMD just made a card that draws less than 150w, which is still 100w less than the GTX 580 mind you, and it's riding the 580's butt the entire time. And what about the 7850? Riding on the 570 drawing only 106w, which was less than the recorded wattage of the 5770 back when! Yet all people can say is that it's "decent"performance for a mid-range card.
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Yes, I know the 5770 only drew 107w compared to the 7850's 106w. One watt difference less, "big deal", but with three times the performance per watt...that's just the definition of win. wink.gif

I say AMD definitely kicked it off hard and fast this time. Specs were off as usual, but I expected that as their GPU architecture just went through a HUGE revamp and it's showing considerably so in this line.

I still can't get around the performance per watt these cards provide... drool.gif GTX 580 performance for 130w... eek.gif However, I truly believe the 7850 is the new 5770 of today. There's no doubting that. thumb.gif



And to any of you who still look at the Nvidia side and say "Oh well a 570/580 at the same speeds will match it...":

I implore you sirs, how many GTX 580s/570s can hit 1Ghz on air without popping?

AMD, my hat's off to you. Well done... biggrin.gif
(Though you miiight wanna duck when that giant "K" flies by. tongue.gif)





laaaaaast thing too... (I know I make like 50 "last notes" but oh well...)

I only read through the Guru3D review. Did any of the other sites talk about driver performance?
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I like how a good number of you still discount the larger point of this article and simply stated:
"Decent performance for a mid-range card." or "Not bad."
rolleyes.gif
See the thing about this is, as stated in Guru3D's article summary, AMD just made a card that draws less than 150w, which is still 100w less than the GTX 580 mind you, and it's riding the 580's butt the entire time. And what about the 7850? Riding on the 570 drawing only 106w, which was less than the recorded wattage of the 5770 back when! Yet all people can say is that it's "decent"performance for a midrange card. o_o
I say AMD definitely kicked it off hard and fast this time. Specs were off as usual, but I expected that as their GPU architecture just went through a HUGE revamp and it's showing considerably so in this line.
I still can't get around the performance per watt these cards provide... drool.gif GTX 580 performance for 130w... eek.gif I truly believe the 7850 is the new 5770 of today. There's no doubting that. thumb.gif
And to any of you who still look at the Nvidia side and say "Oh well a 570/580 at the same speeds will match it...":
I implore you sirs, how many GTX 580s/570s can hit 1Ghz on air without popping?
AMD, my hat's off to you. Well done... biggrin.gif
(Though you miiight wanna duck when that giant "K" flies by. tongue.gif)
laaaaaast thing too... (I know I make like 50 "last notes" but oh well...)
I only read through the Guru3D review. Did any of the other sites talk about driver performance?

Could I have a link to the review? I would like to have a read-through it.
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Could I have a link to the review? I would like to have a read-through it.

It's in the OP.

But to save you some time, here you go: http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7850-and-7870-review/24
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Super impressed with 101 watts maximum on the 7850 (before OC of course). You could crossfire on a 450w unit !
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I'm fairly impressed with the performance of these cards. I can see myself getting a 7870 in the summer when the price (hopefully) drops below $300.
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