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Do you guys think the 7850 would have less voltage-tweaked max-oc headroom compared to 7870 due to power limitations of having one less 6-pin connector ?
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Originally Posted by krabs View Post

Do you guys think the 7850 would have less voltage-tweaked max-oc headroom compared to 7870 due to power limitations of having one less 6-pin connector ?

Yeah, I think it's very possible. We'll have to wait for OC reviews to know for sure, but I think that will be the case.
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You want to talk price fixing? Look at Intel, negligible performance gain for IB (10%), smaller die, and it's going to cost the exact same as SB. And Intel has a $1000 flagship CPU that has a transistor count 33% as much as the 7970. And somehow Intel hasn't managed to bring a quad-core below $185 retail when AMD's been at it since 2009 or so with $150 quads. So spare me. Just wait until Nvidia has cards out for a while, yields go up, and all the 40nm cards are discontinued, you should get your price drop.

Intel "quad" cores outperform AMD 6 cores by a pretty substantial margin. The comparison isn't even fair.


To compare a SB-E to a 7970 is not a fair comparison. The SB-E is more of a professional's chip as the nvidia quadro is. The Competition has nothing on the market to compete with that. Have you seen the price of Nvidia quadros lately?

Source

When Intel starts selling their professional chips at 4000 dollars I'll start worrying. AMD is not even competitive in that market of graphics. They are at least competitive in the enthusiast realm (7xxx 6xxx vs gtx 6xx 5xx)

The fact that I can pick up effectively an 8 core processor for <300 dollars (2600k) is a testament to Intel actually being competitive price wise. Before you say its not a true 8 core let me remind you that the 8150 isn't a true 8 core either. It's effectively a quad core with hardware hyperthreading.
 
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So, I've been doing a bit of looking around. The only company doing a reference 7870 (according to the press releases) is Club3D, only sold in Europe.
http://videocardz.com/30773/msi-powercolor-club3d-his-gigabyte-xfx-sapphire-and-asus-radeon-hd-7870-and-7850-pictured

Stupid. Just.... stupid. I hope someone else decides to do a ref card that sells in NA. God knows getting non-ref waterblocks that are worth anything is a major pain in the ass.

Edit: But Aha! Powercolor is doing a 7870 ref! http://www.powercolor.com/us/products_features.asp?id=396#Specification
Edited by X-Nine - 3/6/12 at 2:11pm
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So, I've been doing a bit of looking around. The only company doing a reference 7870 (according to the press releases) is Club3D, only sold in Europe.
http://videocardz.com/30773/msi-powercolor-club3d-his-gigabyte-xfx-sapphire-and-asus-radeon-hd-7870-and-7850-pictured
Stupid. Just.... stupid. I hope someone else decides to do a ref card that sells in NA. God knows getting non-ref waterblocks that are worth anything is a major pain in the ass.
Edit: But Aha! Powercolor is doing a 7870 ref! http://www.powercolor.com/us/products_features.asp?id=396#Specification

Well at least as far as hardware (not it's location on the board) goes all seem to be so far reference. I have been looking myself around for something with 4x - 6x displayports but have not spotted any so far. Considering that all the cards so far out seem to lack certain uniqueness then I would assume that even if some guys have taped a non-reference cooler on the card the card itself is probably quite reference. I will take a little while I think for truly non-reference designs (similar to 6870x2 and eyefinity editions in the 6xxx series) to emerge.
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Well at least as far as hardware (not it's location on the board) goes all seem to be so far reference. I have been looking myself around for something with 4x - 6x displayports but have not spotted any so far. Considering that all the cards so far out seem to lack certain uniqueness then I would assume that even if some guys have taped a non-reference cooler on the card the card itself is probably quite reference. I will take a little while I think for truly non-reference designs (similar to 6870x2 and eyefinity editions in the 6xxx series) to emerge.

Most of the cards are actually non-ref design. Especially anything with those dual fans, which, is most of the 7870's.
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No but, the 7670 will be, if you hybrid crossfire it with the APU you get fairly good performance at a low price.

the 7670 is just a re-badged 6670. only the 77xx+ cards are GCN
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Can someone give me some guidance? I'm building this rig and I'm not sure if I should just hold out for a 7850 and unlock it or just get a used unlocked 6950.

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If I should be looking for a 6950, how much should I be looking to pay since these are coming out in two weeks? What's the max I should pay for an unlocked (like MSI)? Max for one I can't unlock (like PowerColor or Sapphire)?

Should I just hold out for a 7850? How do the release dates work? On the release day is that when it hits stores or is that when they start taking online orders?

I'll pay $250 max for a card.
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... I'm not sure if I should just hold out for a 7850 and unlock it ...

How do you know it will unlock? wth.gif
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How do you know it will unlock? wth.gif

No idea. I've never unlocked anything, I just assumed you could know it going into it! lol

You're talking to a guy who's building from a Pentium 4 2.4GHz with a Powercolor 9800pro 128MB. I honestly have no idea what I'm talking about.
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