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Basically right now I have a 27" 60hz monitor and I am curious if I should take it back to the store and buy a 23.6" 120hz monitor?
People say that 120Hz is really nice to have in games. I probably would not use the 120Hz for battlefield 3 but would rather cap my frames at 60 to keep it steady. I would probably take advantage of the 120Hz in games like CS:S or other games where my 580 sli setup can run 120FPS constantly.

People seem to go crazy over 120Hz displays so its really starting to peak my interest.

Currently have:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001431

Looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222

Is that 120Hz monitor even good? Cnet complained of a green tint that it has, can that be adjusted or fixed? I am looking at this monitor because walmart carries it online so if i dont like it, I wont have any issue trying to return it.
Edited by Ratjack - 3/4/12 at 9:54pm
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Different people have different opinions. I wouldn't trade my 120Hz for a bigger 60Hz.

I also wouldn't even look at an Acer. But that's me. I would buy what I already have. If not, I'd look at BenQ, Asus, or Samsung.
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Personally I would rather have the 27'' 60Hz monitor as the 3.4'' diagonal extra brings benefit to every usage (ie gaming and non gaming usage like browsing and word processing).

 

However, if you are a competitive gamer and FPS is your type of game, then perhaps the 23.6'' 120Hz monitor has an edge.

 

Obviously, your budget is around US$300-330.  Or else, if your budget is flexible, you can have the best of both worlds by getting a 27'' 120Hz monitor.  For example, Samsung S27A950 is an excellent choice at US$600.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-S27A950D-27-Inch-Class-Monitor/dp/B004Z75LX0

 

The 27'' 120Hz Samsung S27A700D is much cheaper (perhaps at about US$350-400) but it is a hard-to-find model in the USA.

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Originally Posted by windfire View Post

Personally I would rather have the 27'' 60Hz monitor as the 3.4'' diagonal extra brings benefit to every usage (ie gaming and non gaming usage like browsing and word processing).

However, if you are a competitive gamer and FPS is your type of game, then perhaps the 23.6'' 120Hz monitor has an edge.

Obviously, your budget is around US$300-330.  Or else, if your budget is flexible, you can have the best of both worlds by getting a 27'' 120Hz monitor.  For example, Samsung S27A950 is an excellent choice at US$600.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-S27A950D-27-Inch-Class-Monitor/dp/B004Z75LX0


The 27'' 120Hz Samsung S27A700D is much cheaper (perhaps at about US$350-400) but it is a hard-to-find model in the USA.

I dont consider myself a competitive gamer, I just play for fun. The only real benefit I could see is losing mouse lag in games like counter strike. I dont think I need my games any "smoother" since they feel plenty smooth already. Even in CS:S I dont see how it would help... and like I said the only thing I could see it doing for me would be the mouse lag issue which is not even that bad. $600 is a little out of the range that I am willing to spend when considering what benefits I would be getting out of it. So I think I will just stick with the Samsung that I have. I would not be able to really take full advantage of 120hz with bf3 anyways tongue.gif since with my setup it would be dipping below 120 on the settings I like.

Thank you for taking your time to write out your response! + rep
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If you don't play competitively, I suggest 60Hz.
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What resolution are you considering for the 27 inch? You should realize that some people don't like screens bigger than 24 inch if they are only 1080p. Another thing to consider when choosing a monitor is how much GPU power you have. Can you actually run games above at 120 hz or at least stay above 60hz?
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post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by Accuracy158 View Post

Can you actually run games above at 120 hz or at least stay above 60hz?

That is a misconception. You don't need high framerate capability to use 120Hz right. It means that the gameplay will be smoother OVERALL.
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What resolution are you considering for the 27 inch? You should realize that some people don't like screens bigger than 24 inch if they are only 1080p. Another thing to consider when choosing a monitor is how much GPU power you have. Can you actually run games above at 120 hz or at least stay above 60hz?

I only have a single GTX580 and can run most of the games available at maximum settings while achieving 100+ fps. The Witcher 2 is the most demanding game I've played so far which runs between 50-70 fps on ultra settings (without ubersampling). Skyrim was about 80-100 fps on ultra settings. Both using maximum anti-aliasing.

I also feel that 1080p on a 23" monitor requires little to no anti-aliasing which also helps to boost performance. AA is a GPU hog. I have noticed no difference on some games while noticing very little difference on others when going from max AA to no AA. So if I want to increase my fps, that's where I start trimming. (different people have different opinions here, form your own)

AA becomes more required as the dot pitch on the monitor gets larger. Playing at a lower resolution than 1080p on a 1080p monitor increases the dot pitch within the game, which means more AA is needed. Once the dot pitch gets too large, even AA will not help. Try playing Diablo II at 800x600 resolution stretched to fit a 1080p screen for an example. All of the AA in the world isn't going to make that game not look blocky.


The OP has a GTX580 SLI so they should be able to run every game I've played at 100+ fps with max AA and easily at 120 fps with no AA at 1080p.

Every game doesn't HAVE to run at 120Hz constantly to be getting your money's worth from a 120Hz monitor. That would be like saying that a 60Hz monitor is a waste because a game runs at 30-50 fps (to those I've heard say that).
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I only have a single GTX580 and can run most of the games available at maximum settings while achieving 100+ fps. The Witcher 2 is the most demanding game I've played so far which runs between 50-70 fps on ultra settings (without ubersampling). Skyrim was about 80-100 fps on ultra settings. Both using maximum anti-aliasing.
I also feel that 1080p on a 23" monitor requires little to no anti-aliasing which also helps to boost performance. AA is a GPU hog. I have noticed no difference on some games while noticing very little difference on others when going from max AA to no AA. So if I want to increase my fps, that's where I start trimming. (different people have different opinions here, form your own)
AA becomes more required as the dot pitch on the monitor gets larger. Playing at a lower resolution than 1080p on a 1080p monitor increases the dot pitch within the game, which means more AA is needed. Once the dot pitch gets too large, even AA will not help. Try playing Diablo II at 800x600 resolution stretched to fit a 1080p screen for an example. All of the AA in the world isn't going to make that game not look blocky.
The OP has a GTX580 SLI so they should be able to run every game I've played at 100+ fps with max AA and easily at 120 fps with no AA at 1080p.
Every game doesn't HAVE to run at 120Hz constantly to be getting your money's worth from a 120Hz monitor. That would be like saying that a 60Hz monitor is a waste because a game runs at 30-50 fps (to those I've heard say that).

The reason I added a second 580 was I got tired of dipping below 60 frames per second. I am extremely sensitive to any frame dips and can instantly notice a dip down to 55 fps and it drives me insane. So if I had a 120hz monitor and I was dipping down to 100 it would probably get to me noticing the dip. I notice no issues with the size of the pixels on a 27" 1080p monitor, I have however noticed the issue on screens larger than 32". After reading your responses and doing more research I think I will stick to just the 27" 60hz since my main game that I play is BF3 and on max settings I get between 80-150fps. Dipping down from 120 would drive me insane and push me to buying a 3rd 580 rolleyes.gif which I really dont want to do. If I had a 120Hz monitor I would probably only benefit in games like CS:S, TF2, and skyrim. But since I do not play competitively or really see how if it were "smoother" it would help me, I think its in my best interest to stick with what I have. I got the P2770FH for a VERY good price anyways tongue.gif. I picked it up at Costco brand new for 250 bucks. I really appreciate everyone's input on this! +rep
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No problem. Everyone has different tastes. smile.gif
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