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So.. I'm planning a watercooled build on a switch 810 and is thinking of a definite upgrade


my CF 6970/6950 seems to run BF3/Crysis just fine, but I'm itching to upgrade to a better system. I feel I can shave a few corners and go with a CF 7950 build vs a 7970 build. I know Kepler is going to be out soon, but I don't think it's a definite that the prices for the 7000 series will automatically drop right then and there; also they might be coming out at a more expensive price

So basically my question is
  • Is the $100+ premium on a 7970 worth it?

I plan on selling my 6970 and 6950, and using Newegg Preferred Account so money should be no object to me. Also, the good 7970s seem to be OOS on Newegg atm
Edited by 1rkrage - 3/5/12 at 9:21am
 
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If you want silent and higher overclock then it's worth it. Or  you can get 7950/7970 with custom cooler if noise is your main concern.

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It's worth it to cool anything that gets hot or loud. High end vid cards are screaming to be watercooled, literally lol.
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I will say this all day, every day ... water cooling is IMHO a terrible bang-for-buck proposition. The money/time/energy you invest in it is far more economically spent on buying a higher end card (or a 2nd for SLI) with good after-market cooling like a DCII or TwinFrozr.

I have very 'hot' cards in my 470's w/TFII coolers, and I guarantee there's nobody out there playing ANY games at ANY higher settings than I am ... just because they have water cooling on their cards. When you get right down to it, isn't the only good reason to make such an investment to get higher 'max playable settings'?

I mean, don't get me wrong ... h20 cooling is sweet and everything IF you have a lot of $ to throw around, and are obsessed with temps or quietness ... but if you're on any kind of budget ... water-cooling makes no sense to me at all. It's what I'd consider a luxury smile.gif
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I will say this all day, every day ... water cooling is a terrible bang-for-buck proposition. The money/time/energy you invest in it is far more economically spent on buying a higher end card with good after-market cooling like a DCII or TFII.
I have very 'hot' cards in my 470's w/TFII coolers, and I guarantee there's nobody out there playing ANY games at ANY higher settings than I am ... just because they have water cooling on their cards.
I mean it's cool and everything if you have a lot of $ to throw around, and are obsessed with temps or quietness ... but if you're on any kind of budget ... water-cooling makes no sense to me at all.

Didn't the OP say money isn't an issue? thinking.gif
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I guess I didn't explain it properly. I was wondering if 7950 is "high end" enough to deserve watercooling. Thanks for the awesome replies though smile.gif


I promised myself that I would get a watercooled build after I get a job, and now after 6 months I think I have enough in credit card space /money to make myself one. I was just debating whether I would get a 7950 or 7970 considering one is 100 more than the other. I plan to crossfire both situations so that would be 200 difference for both setups. I keep reading mixed reviews that 7950 can reach 7970 speeds because it uses the same chip, but on some sites, they say it can't. Therefore, I was confused if the shader gain is worth the $100 if they can reach the same speeds.

I know it is a bad investment money wise. I just think it's cool and I kinda need the relative quietness. I broke my eardrum last summer on my current build from trying to play without headphones on a hair dryer of a 6950.
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I guess I didn't explain it properly. I was wondering if 7950 is "high end" enough to deserve watercooling. Thanks for the awesome replies though smile.gif
I promised myself that I would get a watercooled build after I get a job, and now after 6 months I think I have enough in credit card space /money to make myself one. I was just debating whether I would get a 7950 or 7970 considering one is 100 more than the other. I plan to crossfire both situations so that would be 200 difference for both setups. I keep reading mixed reviews that 7950 can reach 7970 speeds because it uses the same chip, but on some sites, they say it can't. Therefore, I was confused if the shader gain is worth the $100 if they can reach the same speeds.

The 7950 is a high end card, most definitely. Ignore the sites. People on this forum are hitting 1ghz with ease and often way over that. The real difference is in the parts for the pcb, where the 7970 has the higher quality components.
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Yes 7950 is a high end card and i would go with that, ive heard and seen some really good overclocks on them, wouldnt bother spending the extra money on the 7970, i also would get a 7950 with an aftermarket cooler, and wouldnt worry about watercooling inless your really set on ocing this thing to the max, like what was said above, watercooling or not the only thing to gain from it is higher clocks, but why bother when these things can max things out anyways,?
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i would/ am going with a 7950 over a 7970, i can find them for up to $200 cheaper for only a little reduce in perfomance
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I guess I didn't explain it properly. I was wondering if 7950 is "high end" enough to deserve watercooling. Thanks for the awesome replies though smile.gif
I promised myself that I would get a watercooled build after I get a job, and now after 6 months I think I have enough in credit card space /money to make myself one. I was just debating whether I would get a 7950 or 7970 considering one is 100 more than the other. I plan to crossfire both situations so that would be 200 difference for both setups. I keep reading mixed reviews that 7950 can reach 7970 speeds because it uses the same chip, but on some sites, they say it can't. Therefore, I was confused if the shader gain is worth the $100 if they can reach the same speeds.
I know it is a bad investment money wise. I just think it's cool and I kinda need the relative quietness. I broke my eardrum last summer on my current build from trying to play without headphones on a hair dryer of a 6950.

Check out the Sapphire HD 7950 OC at USD 409

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102991

This card can be pushed to 1200 with Sapphire Trixx with extra voltage.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/01/xfx_radeon_hd_7950_black_edition_video_card_review/8

BF3 2560 x 1600 Ultra 2x MSAA
HD 7950 OC (1195 ) - avg 54.2 min 35 fps

A single HD 7950 OC can max out BF3 (Ultra 4X MSAA) and hit 45+ fps. Unless you really want 80 - 90 fps the second card is overkill.
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