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post #31 of 80
3/5/12 at 11:58am
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My Q9450 is really going to make it all the way to Broadwell, there is no stopping it now unless it just up and dies. I was hoping for four years when I bought it, but six? ...fine with me. Even if new consoles arrive sometime in 2013, it can't effect enough games quickly enough to make too big a difference for the amount of months that should be left till Broadwell arrives.
Thank you makers of six year old consoles.
Broadwell (& DDR4) ...or Bust!

In your case, no, but for someone running 2-3 GPUs at a high resolution then the the Q9450 could already be hurting framerate, and will do so even more with whatever high-end GPUs are out in 2014.
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3/5/12 at 12:06pm
Will there be new socket 2011 CPU's as well?

If I were to be looking for the best performance (enthusiast) should I go with socket 1150 or 2011?
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post #33 of 80
3/5/12 at 12:07pm
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It's pretty standard that the same CPU's die shrink will work on that platform, so this is more expected than surprising. If Intel started changing sockets for that, for die shrinks... that'd be ridiculous.
It's a shame the socket 775 days are over (actually, some are still on it which goes to show!). That went from the Pentium 4 to the Pentium D, plus it's die shrinks, to the Core 2 Duo and even Core 2 Quad and it's die shrinks. No socket since then has more than half of that claim on LGA 775. Every socket since has been one architecture and it's die shrink, and atop that, starting with Nehalem, they segmented things by having two sockets per architecture.
Edit: Just to put it into perspective, LGA 775's flexibility would sort of be like if everything Intel released after the Core 2 (save the Xeons since I'm not regarding those) all used one single socket!

Except, it wasn't possible to drop a C2D onto a 915 and expect it to work. Absolutely nothing has changed. AMD got the same reaction when it leapt from 939 to AM2, and onward to AM2+, etc. At least there was some real cross compatibility with AMD's sockets.
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post #34 of 80
3/5/12 at 12:36pm
Well, what we could expect from a SOC is integrated memory, antenna and some other nice features.

I don't know what this mean but you could have BIOs in the CPU instead of a chip on the mobo, to reduce motherboards cost.

I don't think there won't be motherboards, but their role will be reduced by a lot. I was also thinking at the potential problematic with integrated VRM feature. Intel could easily "lock" their VRMs to completely avoid consumer to overclock. I think it will increase the overclocking potential however as I heard the current would be much more stable... There isn't a lot of informations about this so nothing is sure!

One thing is sure: it is worth to wait. I wouldn't rush on Ivy even if it is really tempting. Unless you have a serious CPU bottleneck, you better buy extra graphic muscle.
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post #35 of 80
3/5/12 at 12:53pm
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Except, it wasn't possible to drop a C2D onto a 915 and expect it to work.
Yea, that's true.
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post #36 of 80
3/6/12 at 8:03am
10nm!? That's crazy! Yes it is a leap forward from back when 40, 35, and 28 where the latest and greatest thing, but I've heard if the CPU process size gets smaller and smaller it can essientally burn up. I don't think where at the stage yet to where Moore's law is reaching it's limit but where damn close!
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3/6/12 at 10:51am
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10nm!? That's crazy! Yes it is a leap forward from back when 40, 35, and 28 where the latest and greatest thing, but I've heard if the CPU process size gets smaller and smaller it can essientally burn up. I don't think where at the stage yet to where Moore's law is reaching it's limit but where damn close!

Google graphene.

It's supposed to take over, where silicon stops getting smaller.

Altho research is still going on, by the time we get that small, more R&D, from companies like Intel, IBM, etc. will probably go into it and I'm 100% sure we'll see graphene based CPUs before 2020. In 2011 IBM was able to create a graphene 'core' running (on and off) at 100Ghz. The only things holding it back are mass-producing with the current manufacturing process involved, sufficient testing (R&D) and basically... getting rid of silicon tongue.gif because it is still cheaper since no-one really produces graphene on a grand scale for the purpose of making CPUs yet.
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post #38 of 80
3/6/12 at 11:11am
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what is going on... intell is abandoning sockets so suickly lol
and why are sokets going backwards?!?
1366 - 1156 - 1155 - 1150 ?? Socket 2011 already sucks or what?
Less sockets is not a good thing. Just look at socket 775 or AMD stuff. A normal consumer wouldn't know whether the board and CPU were compatible apart from the socket number where in a lot of cases it isn't when you look at AMD or 775.
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3/6/12 at 11:42am
Overclocking hampered? I think not:

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3/6/12 at 12:01pm
What is this 1150 socket? where'd that come from.

This sounds like horrible news. Since when did sockets live on a 2 year life cycle? Ugh. I thought the current chipset mashup was a result of intel moving the IMC and graphics on die and off the chipset? Now they're just dropping pins to screw us? or is there something else changing with 8x series?

Dangit Intel, first you take away all my Nanometers, and now you're taking my pins away too!wackosmiley.gif
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