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I am picking up a Phobya 200mm rad and EK waterblock for my hd7970, and adding it to my rasa 750 rs240 loop.

I want to know if there is anything i should replace, while i have the loop apart. Are there better fittings i should be using? does tubing make a difference?

I dont know enough about the water cooling specifics to make any kind of decision on this stuff but i would like to take care of everything at the same time i have the loop apart.
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Can you give us a list of the components in your list (don't wanna assume its still stock)? Fittings is all about personal preference barbs or compression it is all up to what you like. Tubing per-se does not make a difference, the tubing diameter does.
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i have an RS240 kit inside my corsair but everything is stock except for fans on the rad.

I am going to have to mod the front of the case a bit for the rad, but i am not worried about that. I don't care so much about colored tubing but i am definitlely feeling like i want to add some sort of drain to the loop.

I haven't had any issues with the stock barbs that came with the kit, but i am going to have to order new fittings and tubing anyways, so i figure why not get it all taken care of at once.
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A better pump would be a good addition. The one that comes with the XSPC kits is pretty sad.
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post #5 of 17
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what pump would you suggest? I imagine i will not be able to replace the one within the xspc res?

I do like that the res sits in the drive bays so if i replace the pump, i imagine i should pick up a new res, as well.

With regards to fittings, what would i gain by going with something like a pressure fitting? Even if it makes hose disconnect and sealing easier, that is worth it to me.
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just a little bump for suggestions on replacement pump and fittings. I am placing the order for the rad and 7970 waterblock, in a couple of days woooo!!
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post #7 of 17
Thought on the 200mm Rad. It is much bigger then 200mms so keep that in mind I have one in the front of my haf x and it was a pain in the ass to mount. As for the drain port frozencpu sells a nice drain from koolance. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8334/koo-159/Koolance_G14_Brass_Inline_Drain_Valve_Fitting_VLV-XTSPL.html?tl=g30c101s460
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I used the XSPC pump in a build that cooled an i7 920, Sabertooth x58 board and a GTX 480 and never had any problems with it for the 8 months I used it. It does not have the head pressure of other pumps, but it does work. If you dont really want to replace it, you dont have to. The pump is in place for pretty much a permanent time, so if you wanted to replace it you would have to get a new pump and reservoir.

As for fittings, the only real gain on going with compression fittings over barbs are security in the loop. I like to use compression fittings because they have a very clean look and I have never had one leak on me. The downfall to them is that the costs can add up rather quickly.

I would recommend replacing the tube because it is not very high quality stuff that comes in the XSPC kits. I never did like it. I recommend Primochill tube because it has good flexibility, bend radius, and I have not had any problems with it leaching chemicals. I used Tygon tube in a build before and after four weeks I was already finding build up in my CPU block, so I would recommend steering clear of it. Feser tube is stiff and tends to fog up quickly... not sure what the story is with that stuff.

As for a drain port I like the BitsPower Passthrough and just put a stop plug in it.
Edited by ShortAlieN - 3/8/12 at 2:46pm
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Do you think the pump built into the xspc res, will be fine with the addition of the vga waterblock and 200mm rad?

i've heard that the phobya rads dont require a lot of pressure to be efficient and i dont intend to add anything else to the loop, after these updates. However, i do want to make sure i don't have to tear it down again, unless absolutely necessary.

As far as the fittings go, i really like the look of the compression type and since they are reusable, it makes it easier for me to justify the cost.

Thanks for the info! I am still considering the new res and stronger pump option but i'd really like to know if the xspc pump in my current res would be strong enough to go through RS240, cpu block, vga block, Phobya 200mm
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As for fittings, the only real gain on going with compression fittings over barbs are security in the loop. I like to use compression fittings because they have a very clean look and I have never had one leak on me. The downfall to them is that the costs can add up rather quickly.
I would recommend replacing the tube because it is not very high quality stuff that comes in the XSPC kits. I never did like it. I recommend Primochill tube because it has good flexibility, bend radius, and I have not had any problems with it leaching chemicals. I used Tygon tube in a build before and after four weeks I was already finding build up in my CPU block, so I would recommend steering clear of it. Feser tube is stiff and tends to fog up quickly... not sure what the story is with that stuff.

I don't know about security with compression fittings, there are plenty of people who've had them leak and IMO you can't get more secure than clamps on barbs. As for tubing, there's a huge thread filled with people that have had plasticizer issues with the latest batches of Primochill, so I'm not sure that's the brand I'd recommended either. I'd suggest getting something that's plasticizer-free, if looks aren't important then Norprene tubing is great for that.
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Do you think the pump built into the xspc res, will be fine with the addition of the vga waterblock and 200mm rad?
i've heard that the phobya rads dont require a lot of pressure to be efficient and i dont intend to add anything else to the loop, after these updates. However, i do want to make sure i don't have to tear it down again, unless absolutely necessary.
As far as the fittings go, i really like the look of the compression type and since they are reusable, it makes it easier for me to justify the cost.
Thanks for the info! I am still considering the new res and stronger pump option but i'd really like to know if the xspc pump in my current res would be strong enough to go through RS240, cpu block, vga block, Phobya 200mm

It's hard to say if your pump will be fine or not, as the main complaint with the pumps in those kits are inconsistency. Some are great, and run pretty complex loops with no issue, others fail quickly just in the stock kit, and there's a whole spectrum in the middle. It may work just fine for years, or it may die right away. I'd say try it, and if it fails you can replace it.
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