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March 05, 2012, 12:12 PM — The U.S. Federal Trade Commission should investigate Apple and Google for allowing applications on their mobile OSes to access users' photographs without permission, a U.S. senator said.

Some mobile applications on the Android and iOS OSes "steal" users photos, said Senator Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat. The mobile OSes allowing apps to access user photos is a "disturbing and potentially unfair practice," Schumer said in a statement issued Sunday. The New York Times reported on the issue last week.

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& So it begins...

This is not going to end well for Google & Yahoo, I'm sure...

But let's keep the "Political" Discussions out of this, thanks..
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& So it begins...
This is not going to end well for Google & Yahoo, I'm sure...
But let's keep the "Political" Discussions out of this, thanks..

I'm really not sure how to keep politics out of a thread created to talk about a US Senator wanting to investigate these companies. We both know how your thread about Iranian concrete turned out :-/.

I don't necessarily agree with you though, Google itself has a pretty outstanding history of standing up for itself and not getting rolled on by anyone, I think they'll be just fine. The thing of it is, this guy is talking about apps. I'm assuming by apps he means things you can purchase from the store/market. In which case, it's the user's choice to download/use that app, not the company's mandate. So really the end-user is violating his/her own privacy rights when the use the app smile.gif

Also, in regards to Google and their apps, I know they've got their Galaxy Nexus integrated with google+, but the default privacy setting is set to private, so any photo you take on your phone stays private, you have to voluntarily choose to share that photo with people. Even then, you can be as specific as you want with who you share the photo with, Google has taken great steps to ensure user's have their privacy and can control virtually every facet of what other people can and cannot see. They've taken a very proactive approach to privacy, unlike a company like Facebook that tends to be very sneaky and reactive.
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Seems to be the right cause this time.
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Seems to be the right cause this time.

confused.gif What do you mean, seems to be the right cause? It seems like a person is trying to generate headlines and get some of the spotlight on them. There wasn't a list of specific apps, nor even specified issues with the apps, just the fact the this senator thinks apps are stealing private photos and that Google and Apple are clearly endorsing these actions.
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I believe that someone else has been reporting the thefts b3machi7ke, this isn't just one person wanting to investigate, there is PROBABLE CAUSE and a good reason to investigate...

I'm sure that the dust will settle soon and we will all know what damages Google and Apple have sustained for their discrepancies.
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Originally Posted by _GTech View Post

I believe that someone else has been reporting the thefts b3machi7ke, this isn't just one person wanting to investigate, there is PROBABLE CAUSE and a good reason to investigate...
I'm sure that the dust will settle soon and we will all know what damages Google and Apple have sustained for their discrepancies.

certainly, we'll see what happens in a little while. However, it would seem that the driving force behind this would be this article from the New York Times, showing a potential vulnerability in Android. From doing some thinking over it, and reading the thought process behind why they choose this software design, it really seems that Google had (more or less) the end user in mind when it chose this design, and people have discovered it can be used maliciously. I still don't like to think of Google as an evil company so I will admit my bias toward them, so I will certainly be interested to see where the cards fall on this
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Fear Uncertainty Doubt.

Good ole Chuck, find a new way to stick his nanny hands every where.

Its nothing. Apple restricts the access to the photos, GPS permissions allowed it, but they will fix it because of their retarded restrictions.

Android just works like Windows or OS X, non restrictive file systems.

People should probably pay more attention to the fact they are uploading pictures onto the internet with EXIF data showing your GPS location which people already know paparazzi use from photos on twitter.
Edited by FtL1776 - 3/5/12 at 4:13pm
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FTC, how about you do something useful, like investigate AT&T and other providers for levying unfair charges for services they're understood to provide, and help to draw down prices for something that's becoming a basic utility for a lot of citizens, as opposed to seeing if an application that the user grants privileges to is accessing their photos.

Besides, it's the app developers that are conducting this practice, not Apple or Google (well, don't get me wrong, the conspiracy theorist in me is convinced that they're both doing this)--but to illustrate a point, is it Microsoft's fault if a user installs a program on their computer that enables a 3rd party to access some or all of their info on their computer? No, of course not. That's an issue between the user and the developer that is conducting this process. This seems like a pretty ignorant way of dealing with the situation as it's currently understood.
    
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well I think this senator should be investigated, he should have nothing to hide right...?
I mean why all of a sudden is this guy concerned about the privacy of photos? Sounds like someone has something to hide to me.
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well I think this senator should be investigated, he should have nothing to hide right...?
I mean why all of a sudden is this guy concerned about the privacy of photos? Sounds like someone has something to hide to me.

This again?

The old: "If you don't have anything to hide" argument, is a ridiculous counterpoint to advocating privacy IMO.
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