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[update]

It is pretty well finished biggrin.gif

I now Have:

Sabertooth P67 REV B3
i5 2550K
EVGA Superclocker
EVGA GTX 680
Windows 7 HP
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120gb SSD
Mushkin Silverline Stiletto 8gb (2x4gb) 1333-mhz
Antec TruePower 650 psu
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160gb HDD
Dell U2412M monitor
Edited by TheMindAtLarge - 3/29/12 at 4:02pm
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Welcome to club from Toronto !
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The 2550K is probably better than the 2500K if you have that board. It isn't that much different, it's clocked 100 MHz higher and it has the iGPU disabled. Since your board can't use the iGPU I'd say its perfect, as long as you didn't spend a whole lot more on it. I wouldn't pay an extra $50-100 just for the 100 MHz.

If you want to overclock you'll definitely need a good cooler. The corsair hydro series are kind of like watercooling for dummies, they're self-contained and everything. That's probably the route I'm going when I get enough money for a build.
Noctua coolers are popular around here if you want to go air.

And if you have the Windows 7 discs, I believe they come with all the different versions packaged up and you just need a product key to determine which to install. You may be able to use your existing installation/product key to reinstall and use the 64-bit version. It's definitely worth it since right now you can't make use of that extra 4 GB of RAM. And then you can install it on your SSD and it'll be nice and snappy thumb.gif

There are new GPUs just around the corner, so if you can wait either go for those or take advantage of current stuff going down in price. Other than that looks like a really nice build you got. Can I ask how much you've spent on what you have so far?
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post #4 of 28
Welcome to the forum! smile.gif


As far as the CPU + motherboard goes, either a 2500k or 2550k would do just fine. You can use the integrated GPU anyway with the Sabertooth. I recommend the i5-2500k. It's the best CPU for gaming at the moment, and it can OC like a beast. Mine's still at stock, and it handles everything smile.gif

You might want to look into ASRock's Z77 boards, which should release anytime now. With the Z77, you'd be able to use the integrated GPU, PCI-E 3, and ASRock have solid boards for very appealing prices smile.gif

If you have questions, just send me a pm smile.gif
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post #5 of 28
Welcome!
I concur that Sabertooth P67 overclocks easily and beautifully - stable as a brick pretty much.

Regarding cooler, it's entirely up to how much you want to spend and how far you want to overclock. You can get a decent one for as little as $30 (CM Hyper212+) which can comfortably give enough room to hit 4.4-4.5ghz OC's (or higher, depending on your room temps). Noctua D14 is still the air-cooling king but comes with a pretty hefty pricetag. The closed-loop watercoolers have come along very nicely, I can recommend anything from Antec Kuhler series or Corsair Hydro series.

If you're aiming for a mostly gaming-oriented build, there's no point pushing the CPU to it's limits and a moderate overclock will be more than enough. The GTX570 (if you go for it) will deal with the majority of the gaming stress.

Overclocking with P67 is actually quite simple, complications don't arise until you try to push the chip out of it's comfort zone (4.8-5ghz+).
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I decided to go with the 2550k "(only $10 more, but same price *this week as the 2500k at NCIX.ca) instead of the 2500k mostly out of curiousity, its fairly new, can't find a whole lot of third party information on it at the time. But from what I have found, It seems not having the integrated GPU allows for higher clocks at lower voltages(?) and lower temps.... mild differences though... and from some of the things i have read; the 2550k seems to get to that 5ghz without as much hassel. but i guess i would have to find the truth in that for myself.

As for the cooler, yes i seem to be keeping my eye on higher end pricey coolers. for air cooling, yes i was looking at the Noctua d14, seems like a great fit. As for self contained liquid cooling units i had my eye set on the new Intel block and radiator. The same company that produces liquid units for Corsair and Antec, produces the Intel cooler. A single fan radiator with a larger surface dissipation and design just for intel boards/chips to the high standards of intel biggrin.gif so if i decide to spend a mint on the cooler... thats what i will probably go for.

As for windows 7 i plan on picking that up in the next week or two, so i am not too worried about that.

now the reason i am looking at the MSI GTX 570 frostr III is that it is factory OC'd. runs cool and quiet. seems to be a gem considering my build and experience. gems are expensive tongue.gif

.. and what is this news of new generation of GPUs "just around the corner" MME1122?
that MSI gtx is premium priced... so maybe it really would be worth waiting for....
I should look into this...

as for a general gaming rig... my original idea was to build a well rounded system for general use, that could handle some games. nothing for serious use... i tend to really brick in the hours with simple stuff like L4D2 and TF2... but really who doesnt want the luxury of stunning visuals? and maybe i would be a little more serious about my gaming if i did have the power...

this project had me rather enthused when i was still just thinking about it... and now that I've started the excitement is really starting to get the best of me.

PSU: I have the Antec TruePower 650, i got a good deal on it, and seemed like a solid match with all the power features of p67. now i am unsure how to work out if it is enough for the planned finished project. would i need to upgrade again before i am really finished? I thought it would be enough so long as i am running a single card.


Price rundown:

Fractal Design Define R3
$109.99
Antec Truepower New 650
$84.99
Mushkin Chronos 120GB
$157.99
Intel Core i5 2550K
$239.99
ASUS Sabertooth P67 Rev 3.0 P67
$187.00
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB
$44.72
Fractal Design Silent Series 140MM
$11.99
Fractal Design Silent Series 120MM
$9.99

Shipping total:
$19.99
Shipping insurance total:
$18.89
E-recycling fee:
$0.05

Total:
$885.59
+ Tax (13%HST)
$115.13

GRAND TOTAL:
1000.72 CAD

++ OCN marketplace loss :'(
$293



Despite the big loss at the start, I think I have done pretty good on the budget for retail +shipping. Getting burned left me feeling insecure, so i felt paying the premium was well worth the security.

I feel pretty confident about all of this, I think the worst is over. As of now i seem right on budget for such a build. I feel have put together a solid well matched build.
The only thing bothering me, is getting into the real technical bits down the road. Though I did choose the sabertooth with this in mind; as well it does seem like the OCN is JUST the place I can find ALL the help and guidance i will need with plenty of room to take things further in the future.
Edited by TheMindAtLarge - 3/5/12 at 11:52pm
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Originally Posted by TheMindAtLarge View Post

I decided to go with the 2550k "(only $10 more, but same price *this week as the 2500k at NCIX.ca) instead of the 2500k mostly out of curiousity, its fairly new, can't find a whole lot of third party information on it at the time. But from what I have found, It seems not having the integrated GPU allows for higher clocks at lower voltages(?) and lower temps.... mild differences though... and from some of the things i have read; the 2550k seems to get to that 5ghz without as much hassel. but i guess i would have to find the truth in that for myself.
As for the cooler, yes i seem to be keeping my eye on higher end pricey coolers. for air cooling, yes i was looking at the Noctua d14, seems like a great fit. As for self contained liquid cooling units i had my eye set on the new Intel block and radiator. The same company that produces liquid units for Corsair and Antec, produces the Intel cooler. A single fan radiator with a larger surface dissipation and design just for intel boards/chips to the high standards of intel biggrin.gif so if i decide to spend a mint on the cooler... thats what i will probably go for.
As for windows 7 i plan on picking that up in the next week or two, so i am not too worried about that.
now the reason i am looking at the MSI GTX 570 frostr III is that it is factory OC'd. runs cool and quiet. seems to be a gem considering my build and experience. gems are expensive tongue.gif
.. and what is this news of new generation of GPUs "just around the corner" MME1122?
that MSI gtx is premium priced... so maybe it really would be worth waiting for....
I should look into this...
as for a general gaming rig... my original idea was to build a well rounded system for general use, that could handle some games. nothing for serious use... i tend to really brick in the hours with simple stuff like L4D2 and TF2... but really who doesnt want the luxury of stunning visuals? and maybe i would be a little more serious about my gaming if i did have the power...
this project had me rather enthused when i was still just thinking about it... and now that I've started the excitement is really starting to get the best of me.
PSU: I have the Antec TruePower 650, i got a good deal on it, and seemed like a solid match with all the power features of p67. now i am unsure how to work out if it is enough for the planned finished project. would i need to upgrade again before i am really finished? I thought it would be enough so long as i am running a single card.
Price rundown:
Fractal Design Define R3
$109.99
Antec Truepower New 650
$84.99
Mushkin Chronos 120GB
$157.99
Intel Core i5 2550K
$239.99
ASUS Sabertooth P67 Rev 3.0 P67
$187.00
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB
$44.72
Fractal Design Silent Series 140MM
$11.99
Fractal Design Silent Series 120MM
$9.99
Shipping total:
$19.99
Shipping insurance total:
$18.89
E-recycling fee:
$0.05
Total:
$885.59
+ Tax (13%HST)
$115.13

GRAND TOTAL:
1000.72 CAD
++ OCN marketplace loss :'(
$293
Despite the big loss at the start, I think I have done pretty good on the budget for retail +shipping. Getting burned left me feeling insecure, so i felt paying the premium was well worth the security.
I feel pretty confident about all of this, I think the worst is over. As of now i seem right on budget for such a build. I feel have put together a solid well matched build.
The only thing bothering me, is getting into the real technical bits down the road. Though I did choose the sabertooth with this in mind; as well it does seem like the OCN is JUST the place I can find ALL the help and guidance i will need with plenty of room to take things further in the future.

Looks good, mate! smile.gif Where's the GPU?
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Nice config. Welcome!
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HA currently i am running an old GeForce 9600 GT. which is kind of useless because it doesnt even run as well as it should. its old and been around the block... but it only has to hold me over for a month or two... hopefully.
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HA currently i am running an old GeForce 9600 GT. which is kind of useless because it doesnt even run as well as it should. its old and been around the block... but it only has to hold me over for a month or two... hopefully.

Oh, I was just thinking that your setup would not run well without one tongue.gif

Which GPU will you get? I can recommend a 6950 2 Gb. if you're on a budget (might even get a 7850 2 Gb.) or a 7950 3 Gb. if you can afford it smile.gif If you're on an even tighter budget the 6850 or 6870 would be powerhouses for 1080p gaming smile.gif
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