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So I've searched around the web about overclocking the E8400, many say that getting it to 3.6 is dead simple. However whenever I try to OC it to 3.6 windows always freezes on boot or after a couple minutes, even when changing the voltages around the computer still locks up. Any suggestions?

My current specs/info:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Revision C0
Cpu voltage: ~1.2
NB Voltage: 1.24
VTT FSB Voltage: 1.2
SB Core Power: 1.5

MOBO: MSI P7N SLI-Fi
RAM: 6GB DDR2 800MHz 4-4-4-15

EDIT: Found the problem, wasn't putting the nb voltage high enough
EDIT2: Well setting the NB higher got it to boot for a while, yet a few minutes in a CPU intensive program it would freeze again
Edited by AlbinoGlowStick - 3/5/12 at 10:40pm
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Slacken your ram timings first of all.

Make sure you have disabled C1E, EIST etc before starting to overclock.

Try leaving all the factors on auto for the first attempt and boot once and take note of the values for each, then go back into BIOS and turn them all back on to manual and set them to the values you noted when it booted on auto. This way you can work all the voltages down to safer values where it is still stable. 3.6GHz is very low for an E8400 OC. Unfortunately you don't have the E0 stepping which is better for overclockability.

Take a look at my CPU-Z: E8400 E0 validation in my signature and it may give you some insight into the core voltage I was using.

As a side note, do you have an aftermarket cooler? The stock one cannot handle the temperatures experienced during overclocking.
 
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I changed the ram timings to 5-5-5-18, disabled all the suggested settings and left everything at the stock voltage. I was able to get into windows and start a a few programs, how ever it locked up once again.

My motherboard apparently doesn't have an auto settings for voltages, I tried pressing F4 but nothing changes in the cell menu. Also I have a CM 212+ as a cooler.
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problem is your nvidia chipset. They suck big time. Couldnt get a my q9550 over 3.6ghz stable on my evga 780i board, but my ud3p board has no problems pushing it up to 4.25ghz.
The 780i and 750i boards don't work vary well with the 45nm chips.

Nvidia chipsets ant the best for going over 1600fsb. The chips are really modified 680i chips with a few bios changes and a tossed on semi-bull**** pci-e 2.0 controller (nf200), they are rated for 1333fsb and 1600fsb but even at 1600fsb its already pushing the NB as it was never designed to run at those speeds just forced to. Going over 1600fsb is more of a game, if you were lucky and got a board that can take the extra fsb then your fine, but some boards just become unstable at those highers fsb no matter how much voltage you though at it. The Nvidia memory controller is also no better, vary picky while using 4 sticks.


If you wanna overclock a 775 chip, you want a p45 board.



Also you board doesnt even have vrm cooling, so Watch out, dont push your voltages to high.
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problem is your nvidia chipset. They suck big time. Couldnt get a my q9550 over 3.6ghz stable on my evga 780i board, but my ud3p board has no problems pushing it up to 4.25ghz.
The 780i and 750i boards don't work vary well with the 45nm chips.
Nvidia chipsets ant the best for going over 1600fsb. The chips are really modified 680i chips with a few bios changes and a tossed on semi-bull**** pci-e 2.0 controller (nf200), they are rated for 1333fsb and 1600fsb but even at 1600fsb its already pushing the NB as it was never designed to run at those speeds just forced to. Going over 1600fsb is more of a game, if you were lucky and got a board that can take the extra fsb then your fine, but some boards just become unstable at those highers fsb no matter how much voltage you though at it. The Nvidia memory controller is also no better, vary picky while using 4 sticks.
If you wanna overclock a 775 chip, you want a p45 board.
Also you board doesnt even have vrm cooling, so Watch out, dont push your voltages to high.

This is all wrong. Look at the E8400 @ 4.5GHz benchmark linked in my sig, it's on a 750i board running 500FSB. NForce has trouble with quads, but they are fine for 45nm dual cores. That 750i in my sig runs daily with an E8400 at 4.3Ghz.

Your problem is your memory. Keep it unlinked and at or under 800. Also, you're going to need more NB volts to get higher FSB.

As always, I'd decrease the CPU multiple to 6x, then find your board/RAM max FSB. You'll have to tune it to get it higher NOT using VCore but RAM and chipset settings. After that you'll not only know your board's limits, but you'll also know what it takes in BIOS to get it there.
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This is all wrong. Look at the E8400 @ 4.5GHz benchmark linked in my sig, it's on a 750i board running 500FSB. NForce has trouble with quads, but they are fine for 45nm dual cores. That 750i in my sig runs daily with an E8400 at 4.3Ghz.
Your problem is your memory. Keep it unlinked and at or under 800. Also, you're going to need more NB volts to get higher FSB.
As always, I'd decrease the CPU multiple to 6x, then find your board/RAM max FSB. You'll have to tune it to get it higher.

your also on a ftw board, so you have pll control. He has a budget board with no VRM cooling. Also not all 750i chips can hit 500fsb, its hard for some of them to get past 450.
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I unlinked the RAM and FSB and kept all the voltages stock except for NB which was raised to 1.36V. Same problem, boots up fine but when running a program (in this case minecraft and realtemp) it eventually locks up. I also touched the motherboard heat sinks and they were fairly hot to touch. Guess I'm just out of luck?
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your also on a ftw board, so you have pll control. He has a budget board with no VRM cooling. Also not all 750i chips can hit 500fsb, its hard for some of them to get past 450.

My 680i (Striker Extreme) ran the other E8400 I had at 4.0 with only 1.23VCore. I didn't use PLL changes in either case.

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I unlinked the RAM and FSB and kept all the voltages stock except for NB which was raised to 1.36V. Same problem, boots up fine but when running a program (in this case minecraft and realtemp) it eventually locks up. I also touched the motherboard heat sinks and they were fairly hot to touch. Guess I'm just out of luck?


What does CPUz say your memory speed is? You need to figure out if it's RAM or NB holding you back.
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Where do I find the memory speed in cpuz?
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