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Thats a great start, but I highly recommend more than 2GB of memory.
Star Craft II Loves memory, and I have no reason to think Diablo III wont show the same preference.

And if he has a hard drive already, I would recommend using it and then buying a secondary or an SSD when prices come down more.
No reason to spend almost $90 on something he already has.
Plus, that money can be used for more memory, and a better video card.
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Thats a great start, but I highly recommend more than 2GB of memory.
Star Craft II Loves memory, and I have no reason to think Diablo III wont show the same preference.
And if he has a hard drive already, I would recommend using it and then buying a secondary or an SSD when prices come down more.
No reason to spend almost $90 on something he already has.
Plus, that money can be used for more memory, and a better video card.

yeah hopefully he already got a monitor, kb, mouse & hd that he can use so we can squeeze more for the memory and gpu.
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yeah hopefully he already got a monitor, kb, mouse & hd that he can use so we can squeeze more for the memory and gpu.

I'm fairly sure he already has a monitor and the basic peripherals, but don't quote me on that.

Like I said, worst case scenario, a good 500w PSU(for an eventual mid-high range video card), a good A6 APU, the other bits, and a 1600 x 900 monitor should come in under $500.
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Someone else just asked fora $500 build as well. Here was my recommendation.

Great budget case $49
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147144

Respectable budget Antec PSU $39
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

Cheap Mobo $61
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157291

AMD X3 CPU $79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103911

2x2GB Ram $24
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144483

500gb Seagate 7200 RPM drive $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767

Radeon 6850 $129
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384

Cheap DVD Burner $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244

In my newegg cart its $496 total, $513 with shipping. If your hard capped on $500, switch to a crappy cheap cast to save the extra money but I find this case very very nice.

You can see others recommendations here...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225288/hi-need-help-on-500-budget-gaming-build#post_16639902
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So much of this you may already know, but here is a rundown that will hopefully aid you in understanding all the junk that people posted on your thread (good junk). thumb.gif

The basic parts that you need to get your PC running are the following: CPU(processor), GPU (graphics card), motherboard, RAM, hard drive (with an OS installed),Power supply, CD/DVD drive and of course, a case.

To understand what all of those do, lets look at the build I sent your way and consider each part.

Phenom x4 960T: This is an AMD quad core CPU. This means that it can run four simultaneous streams of information, obviously increasing efficiency and speed. Nowadays it is pretty standard to be getting a quad core CPU, despite the fact that many games still only run on two cores. Nevertheless, it is good for many other applications. This particular CPU is unique in that it can unlock to a six core. The story behind this is a bit complicated, but just know that AMD maked 6 and 8 core CPUs as well, and when the chip isn’t quite up to spec they disable two cores (on the x6) and sell it as a quad core. If you have the right hardware you can actually unlock those extra two cores on some. For your purposes you will not need it, but it is cool nonetheless.

XFX 6850 Black edition 1GB DDR5: This is your GPU, the main source for performance in many games you will be playing. It can be debated whether or not a game relies more on the CPU or the GPU but the fact remains that you need to have a good graphics foundation to have a good gaming experience. This particular card is right in the middle as far as performance goes. It is “last gen”, as the new 7xxx series is out, but you will not be missing much. This card supports Directx 11, the future of gaming processing, so it is a good choice to have for the next while. It will not max out every game out there but it will play everything well and be a good place to start

Asus Saber Tooth 990 FX: This is your motherboard. We could go on for a while on different chipsets and all, but you should really do research on your own into the finer points of a good motherboard (crossfire, SLI, VRMs, heatsinks, # of sata ports, etc).

Cool Max 600w: Your power supply. This determines how many of what type of components you can have running in your system. If you have a lower rated power supply and you put too much into the system, you run the risk of frying your parts. 600w is PLENTY for this build, with room to add other components. There are useful tools online to determine the size power supply you need for your system, though they tend to overestimate the size you will need, as they are trying to sell you the part!

8GB of G.Skill DDR3 RAM: Here is your RAM (duh). This stands for “random access memory”. You will notice you cant multitask on your netbook very well partially due to the fact that you have very little ram in the system. 8gb is considered more than adequate for gaming needs these days. As you get more experienced you will learn about RAM speeds and timings, but for now you should learn the good brands from the not so good brands and which place nice with AMD or Intel CPUs.
Wireless PCI netgear N adapter: This is a handy addition for wireless connectivity to the internet, but as you are going to be gaming, I would recommend a hard wired connection (Ethernet cable to router/modem)

Cooler Master Elite 311 Case: The home for all your parts! Cases vary in all shapes, sizes and function, so just find the one that works for you. I have a decent case with really good airflow (fans placed in the right area keep your parts cool and working). Cooler Master tends to make really nice cases, so this is nice.

Hard drive: This is where things can get tricky as well. You mentioned not needing a whole lot of space on the drive, which is great, but I still wouldn’t recommend going for anything less than 500gb. You would be surprised how fast it fills up with stuff that you use frequently. Right now, as was mentioned, hard drives are rather expensive due to flooding of manufacturing areas, so I would steer you toward the marketplace to find new/refurbs there. People on this site tend to be pretty good with prices and help you with warranties if things go wrong. With hard drives, typically the faster they spin the better (5000rpm, 7200rpm even 10000rpm!) but that isn’t always what you need to look for. The size of the cache and the reliability of the brand bust also be taken into account.

OS: You can get windows from a lot of people on KSL. I got mine from a guy in a business park who had extra keys from a mass buy he did. It came out to be around $40 and worked out really well. Someone else already gave the numbers for a new, retail copy, so there is also that.

I hope this helped! It is pretty simplified and some might correct me on things, but this is the basic info you need to know for your purposes. Welcome to the world of custom computer building! You will NEVER go back, I promise that much.
     
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Blizzard likes to make games that love good CPUs, so an i3 would be your best bet for D3. But SWTOR on the other hand is a little of both aspecs. So a good GPU will help you with that.

Did the OP ever specify a budget?
is he near a Microcenter?
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Optical
Case
Hard Drive
Video Card
PSU
Memory
Motherboard
CPU[/quote
i think the case and the PSU are total scrap mad.gif here is what i would recommend
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AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black 2.8GHz Triple-Core Processor $79.99 +$6.98 shipping $86.97 @ CompUSA

CPU Cooler
Cooler Master RR-H101-22FK-RA 30.0 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $14.49 @ SuperBiiz

Motherboard
Asus M5A97 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $94.99 @ Amazon

Memory
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $20.99 @ NCIX US

Hard Drive
Western Digital Scorpio Black 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $66.95 @ NCIX US

Video Card
HIS Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card $139.99 -$10.00 MIR+$7.56Shipping $137.55 @ Newegg

Case
Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case $33.11 @ NCIX US

Power Supply
Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply $44.99 -$20.00 MIR $24.99 @ Newegg

Total (before MIR) $510.04 SHIPPED and After MIR $480.04

that is if you need more graphic power and if you want what i called good balanced PC then

CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $114.99 @ NCIX US

Motherboard
Asus M5A97 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $94.99 @ Amazon

Memory
SAMSUNG 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Memory $2.99 @ Newegg

Hard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $75.99 @ NCIX US

Video Card
Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card $109.99 -$20.00 MIR $89.99 @ Newegg

Case
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Power Supply
Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply $44.99 -$20.00 MIR $24.99 @ Newegg

Total (before MIR) $516.93 SHIPPED and After MIR $476.93

if you dont have plans to overclock the go with a Core i3 2120+ Foxconn H61MXV
Hope that helped thumb.gif
Edited by Tarun - 3/6/12 at 8:03am
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Blizzard likes to make games that love good CPUs, so an i3 would be your best bet for D3. But SWTOR on the other hand is a little of both aspecs. So a good GPU will help you with that.
Did the OP ever specify a budget?
is he near a Microcenter?

$500, and not unless there is a Microcenter near Logan Utah.

EDIT: I just threw this togther.
Case
Processor
Motherboard
Memory
PSU
GPU
Wireless Adapter
DVD Burner

Total price:$495 before rebates

If you need a monitor and other peripherals things will get tight, but if you already have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse this setup will blow you away.
You can always check goodwill and garage sales for an old 1024 x 1280 monitor if all else fails.
If it comes down to it, I would highly recommend spending as much of the $500 as possible on the tower and then saving a to buy the monitor later.
It would be agony while you wait, but you will come out with a far better computer in the end.
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$500, and not unless there is a Microcenter near Logan Utah.

ok, thanks tongue.gif

Here is an i3 build, if it were just swtor, I would have probably made it an AMD build, but since you want to include D3 in there and it will probably be your main priority once you get bored of SWTOR, a Sandy Bridge CPU is what you are going to want.

$115 i3 2100
$76 500GB HDD
$50 H61 mobo
$23 2x2GB GSKILL 1333Mhz because of H61 board.
$40.25 Corsair CX430
$40 NZXT Source 210
$89 Win 7
$433.25 Shipped Before rebates

Possible Graphic cards:
USED:

NEW:
Side thoughts:
The used cards will have better performance than the 6670. You can probably even talk them down in price. thumb.gif
You can probably get a cheaper Case too if you wanted to save some $$$ but personally I think the NZXT Source is really nice for the price.


This slightly exceeds the budget, but if you want to get a cheaper case and you can talk down one of the sellers for a GTS 450, you should be spot on with the budget.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8GHz stable ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 MSI GTX 980 Ti 32GB (4 x 8GB) 1866Mhz Ripjaws X 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
256GB Crucial M4 1.5 TB HDD XSPC Raystorm RS360 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer 28" 4K Corsair AX750 Corsair 800D SWTOR Razer Naga 
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Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium XSPC RS120 8 x GT AP-15s White Sleeved Cables for Corsair AX750 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 3Ghz Asus P5G41T-M LX Plus EVGA GTX 680 2x4 GB 1333Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
500GB WD Black 64 GB Crucial M4 Sony CD/DVD burner H40 w/ GT AP-15s 
OSPowerCase
Windows 7 Home 64 bit Corsair CX430 APEVIA X-Plorer2 Pink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Pentium G620 Foxconn H67S ITX Intel HD 2000 2 x 4GB 1333Mhz 
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256GB Crucial M4 Old Laptop CD/DVD drive Windows 7 picoPSU-150-XT 
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