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[Build/Log] LeX-e - mITX (attempt 1: xbox 360) [WIP]

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Current Status: Working on case again and adjustments to compensate an additional fan and the needed airflow across the gpu (else the gpu will overheat). Waiting restart frown.gif The hardware got soaked with I have no clue what when I was away after I left it at my parents and it's dead. The motherboard and/or CPU is dead.
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Update (August 2, 2012): I'm alive no worries but I haven't been in the same city as this computer nor tools for a few months now... The entire rig itself is sustainable but I'm still needing to case it which won't happen for a long time at this rate. My trip back home is just constantly delayed. To add to that though, I'm rebuilding my main desktop as a side desktop for my girlfriend to use and building an ivy+kepler SLI build.


Hey, I've been working on this for a few weeks now slowly getting parts and decided to post it up as my very first build log. Getting used to organizing things and taking pictures as I go so forgive me if I'm missing things lol. Please comment and any suggestions would be appreciated biggrin.gif.

I've dubbed this build LeX-e until further notice lol but as of now the name and case may change accordingly.

Goals:

Aiming to build a small cased computer. The case goal will be to shove it into an XBox 360 case but if that fails due to heat and other requirements I'll have to go for the next size up or try to build one. It'll be able to play most games on low to high settings for the next year or two. Is somewhat upgradable later on.

In my opinion the goals might be a bit much especially for the xbox, but we'll see how it turns out.

Since, the first attempt is in an xbox case I'm also trying to get the regular RF board to power it on and use the buttons, also using the sata port extender and usb ports. Lastly, I don't want it to come outside of the case from the front, top, bottom, or sides, the back is okay though.

Specs/Parts: (Click to show)
CPU: Intel i5-2500k
RAM: Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333MHz
HDD: Vertex 2 SSD 100GB
Expanded HDD: Inside xbox hdd enclosure through sata port (at least make it available) max 500GB - 1TB?
GPU: ASUS nVidia 560 Ti - 384 core
DVD: Silverstone Slot-load DVD (might swap to blu-ray later if it works out nicely)
PSU: Silverstone 450W (SFX12V)
Case: Xbox 360 housing (may change)

Cooling (Radiator, Reservoir, and Pump) : Corsair H60 + H40 + Mods + Scythe KAZE-JYUNI Slip Stream Slim

Extra: zip-ties (home depot), tape, PCI Riser card (ebay), funnel (home depot), 1/4 ID 3/8 OD tubing (Home Depot had a choice between vinyl and polyethylene chose vinyl)

The bolded components are what I believe as vital to the success of this build
Tasks (no particular order): (Click to show)
1) Initially get an idea if I have enough space [Complete - Might be short on space]
2) Obtain main components [Complete - I had the i5, ssd, 560Ti and h60 from a previous version of my main build]
3) Obtain case [Complete - bought RROD from kijiji for $15]
4) Obtain Tubing and extra items [Complete - Home depot thumb.gif]
5) Wire the RF board to power the xbox on
5b) Wire the RF LED and controller sync to work [WIP - purchased Arduino UNO and nano UNO for initial testing but I think the nano will be what I will use since it's much smaller.
5c) Make the arduino/rf interface + rf switch
6) Wire external SATA port
7) Wire front USB port (two vertical)
8) Wire front (memory card) usb (non-OEM need a third-party or custom probably DIY is easiest)
8b) Internal WiFi
8c) Internal Keyboard/Mouse or Bluetooth
9) Mod H60 for CPU use
9b) Mod H40 for GPU use
9c) Connect H60, H40, Radiator, tee fitting and a fill/drain port together and fill loop [Complete - Some stubborn air in the loop but it flows well, leak testing complete as of march 8 6:17pm should've been enough time]
10) Mod power supply (note: will be externally placed mod is to turn it into something that looks more like the xbox 360 psu) (only if components fit, powers on, and the temperatures are good)
11) Front Audio? (I don't think this will be done since I use more USB devices now)
12) Case painting and cleaning up IO ports etc
12b) Case closure - make sure the top fits probably need to remove metal tray and grind/sand the stubby bits off
13) PCI Riser card - resolder and modify riser to fit 560Ti properly [Complete - Probably need to cut it up a bit more to fit better but it works right now.]
14) Bolt to tighten CPU H60 for better contact
15) Lap the H60, H40, CPU and maybe GPU (removing the heat spreader as well)
16) Mod xbox eject button to work with the slot load eject

Bonus: If the case doesn't work out, then my goad would be to build a case similar to that of an xbox case, this is not really in my league but I might be able to do it.

Pictures and Updates: ==March 5, 2012== (Click to show)
Collection of some of the parts + nzxt phantom leftovers on the left
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You see that I've already taken the DirectCU II heatsink off that 560Ti after looking at the fermi mod page I'm thinking of taking that spreader off but let's see how it is to begin with (eVGA 8600 GT S 256MB on the right).
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This radiator is from the Corsair H60, I have the H40 cut up too now.
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Hmm... very very tight fit... this might not work.
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Also, I've already started taking apart the old xbox parts... unfortunately I do NOT have the tools to remove the lead-free components on the board... sooo... best thing I could do was to rip it apart ... literally (frown.gif) ...
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devil.gif The parts need to be rethreaded but I've already started and seems to be ok, in my head in theory it should still work.

Okay, so I've also sanded (using the dremel) and cut out some of the plastic for the video card no pictures right now will post probably tomorrow with them.
While I was tubing I actually broke the primochill tee fitting D= so now I had to order another one because I can't find anything locally mad.gif

Should be here tomorrow (night).

Well for now I at least did this
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==March 7th, 2012== (Click to show)
Massive FAIL! Complete noob mistake >< I put the two pumps in the opposite directions... doh.gif now I am draining the loop >.> That said, I think the H60 pushes the water plenty fast enough and didn't so I didn't need the second H40.

Well, I fixed the direction issue, but because I didn't want to take the H40 off my GPU I still have a position issue but I'm just going to deal with it for now. Right now if you start from the H40 on the GPU it is going:
H40 > Tee (Fill/Drain top) > Radiator (middle) > H60 (CPU) > H40 and the loop is complete. It's no different than a regular CPU/GPU/Rad setup but the position of the fill/drain aka the res is probably in one of the worst spots, but it's in the easiest to access spot :S soo had to make due.

Here's the completed loop on my messy desk tongue.gif No that vertex 3 isn't going into this one it's on my main desktop to supplement the Vertex 3 Max IOPS as a large game and heavy apps drive. Finding a funnel was not easy, I took a multi-purpose oiler from home depot and cut the top off so it'll flow faster like a distilled water bottle in a chemistry lab but smaller.
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Get in a little closer to see the bubbles in that tube and yes that is toilet paper not paper towel... good enough.
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Last update for today, failed to get the pci-e soldered off, I broke too many of the pins axesmiley.png was going to get my copper board but I can't find it >< Gonna look online to order a riser, I managed to find enough space that there isn't as much overlap and a regular solid riser might work but I dunno how far up it needs to go

Next step, is riser fixing, initial temperature check, then grinding/sanding the top of the case and getting things to fit given that the temperature is good.
==March 19th, 2012== (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by JQuantum View Post

Update: Cut up a PCIe riser card to fit the tube between the card, pcie slot and the ram.
I've put it together outside the case right now and it's runnning Linx 5 runs max memory just as a prelim and a quick furmark 1080p bench.
CPU and GPU are stock atm, but it's running fairly hot but furmark is much worse... and the radiator gets really warm on furmark not as bad on Linx. Also, the tubing has a semi major kink near the radiator and two pinches one going into the gpu and one coming out.
It's installed SP1 and runs fine just warm but not uncontrollably so far so temperature wise on stock settings it should be fine.
-= Linx =-
CPU: 30-40 idle and 60-67 on load, gradually the GPU went from 37C to 45C
-= Furmark =-
GPU: 44 idle (after linx) 69C max after wards
RIght now after both the cpu and gpu are idling at 43,46.42.43 and 41C.
Some pictures updated in the first post.

EDIT: Played bf3 for 30 minutes I guess not too long but did a bunch of different scenes, playing at 1080p Ultra settings was okay but I quickly changed it from Ultra to MSAA 2x instead of 4x. FPS on average in almost all maps were 52fps single player. I'll probably play without MSAA or on High. Temperatures max out around 69C for GPU and 68C for CPU.

Some quick benches to check temperatures.
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Here's an idea of how the inside will be layed out, minus the wifi card and cables.
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Pinched tube where the PCIe riser is the tube PCIe riser and the cap are touching.
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The cut I made and the tube are touching, I should probably cut it more. I don't think you can see that the H60 has nothing tightening it on that corner as well, I should find a bolt to secure that...
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Another try at that picture.
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At the moment I'm installing origin to copy BF3 over. I highly doubt I will be OCing at least here, but I'll setup a profile and will try again in a cooler room later on.

There will be a major break before I put this into the case because this week I am busy with a few exams and papers as well as next. I'll try this weekend but won't have a ton of time.

Also, sorry for the delay since the PCIe riser card took a bit of time to get here.

N.B, I'll probably be using the AE2500 wifi card you see in the picture internally, the pings and speeds I get are pretty good with it.

Also, this post (including the bump post) was made on Lex-e's hardware kinks or not it's stable which was my initial goal and entire point of watercooling because the regular air heatsinks would NOT fit. I'll be leaving it on for the next while just to make sure it doens't die or anything. The PSU seems to be sufficient as well.

Edited by JQuantum - 10/9/12 at 5:09am
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Definitely subscribed to this. biggrin.gif

Build log itself looks good so far. Sorry I'm gonna be that guy, there is no such thing as a Silverstone mITX psu. tongue.gif There are mITX psus, but that is a SFX psu.
     
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Definitely subscribed to this. biggrin.gif
Build log itself looks good so far. Sorry I'm gonna be that guy, there is no such thing as a Silverstone mITX psu. tongue.gif There are mITX psus, but that is a SFX psu.

Definitely correct, I was going off memory and couldn't remember tongue.gif lol. Post updated with a link too, will be slowly adding links for more information.
Sighs... for someone born and raised in Canada my grammar sure blows.
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To fit the GTX 560Ti it might be easier to buy a PCI-e riser cable instead of just a solid riser and re-soldering.
     
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To fit the GTX 560Ti it might be easier to buy a PCI-e riser cable instead of just a solid riser and re-soldering.

If the first few pictures you should see that I get a flex cable version, it's a cheap ebay one but I found that it worked with the 8600 and was fine. So, my goal is to resolder it to turn it into a semi-solid because it wont' be moving anyways and the lack of space makes it so that the PCIe slot on the card overhangs the PCI slot on the motherboard (gets close to the H60 block). This'll take some fine motor skills that I might not have lol

But yes. Flexi is definitely better than a solid riser, but the bulk of the flexi is a real snag.
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Oh, I missed that. Why didn't you buy a solid one then? tongue.gif
     
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Oh, I missed that. Why didn't you buy a solid one then? tongue.gif

Lol spacing would be worse tongue.gif, I'm basically going to try and have the PCIe slot as far towards the CPU as I can. This way for power the 560Ti might have some space to route to the normal cable into it so I don't have to solder the power onto the backside (assuming it wasn't protected from current flow). There are random obstacles but IMO the biggest one is space. I think of I have the H60 and the Radiator + the 12mm fan on the bottom side pushing air up, I run out of space by 1-2mm and there isn't anything that I can think of to fix this problem. I can't move much of anything.


I think modding the 450W psu to run this (externally) would be much easier
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Intel i5-3570k Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe MSI HD 7950 Samsung 
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OCZ Agility 3 Corsair H100i Windows 8 Professional x64 Cardboard box 
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Corsair 600T Special Edition White Logitech G9x Unknown yet Keyboard: Corsair K90 (Pending) 
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Intel i5-3570k Asus P8Z77-i Deluxe MSI HD 7950 Samsung 
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hum... i wonder if anyone has ever done a H100 mod for the xbox? biggrin.gif would the pump fit under the CDROM? biggrin.gif
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