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Why was the GK100 scrapped? I'm disappointed....
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Why was the GK100 scrapped? I'm disappointed....

From what I gather they couldn't get the heat and power draw under control. That combined with the fact they are already behind and at this point it's just better to get something out and then skip to the GK110 and get it right the first time.
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Why was the GK100 scrapped? I'm disappointed....

It wasn't completely scrapped to my knowledge.

It'll likely just be released around christmas in the form of 7XX. I don't see how they would possibly keep it under the 6XX series, since it would be much much faster than this... assuming they don't start tearing it apart for the reasons sticks435 said.
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There's no way Nvidia's next high-end GPU is going to have only a 256-bit memory bus, it just doesn't make sense! I would believe that their yields are low and want to avoid another Fermi GTX 480 disaster ,I think Nvidia will release their high-end GPU (GTX780) later this year.
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There's no way Nvidia's next high-end GPU is going to have only a 256-bit memory bus, it just doesn't make sense! I would believe that their yields are low and want to avoid another Fermi GTX 480 disaster ,I think Nvidia will release their high-end GPU (GTX780) later this year.

Nvidia biting off more than they can chew seems to be the new gameplan since 400 series. Just as an example, the GTX 295 was a dual- 275's. Pretty decent card. And then you have the GTX 590. It doesn't take a genius to realize that dual- 570's on a single graphics card would've been as fast (unless AMD is just inherently better at making dual-GPU cards). And now they want to make 550mm^2 die sizes... on 28nm? 28nm already costs more on a per-mm^2 basis, if anything they should keep die size similar to a GTX 580, if not slightly smaller.

Now I do understand Nvidia's performance/mm^2 is lacking, but their brute-force and harvesting dies strategy isn't terrible. They should focus more on R&D and come up with a more efficient process. I'm guessing this is why Nvidia is (I'm assuming) using smaller CUDA cores - more performance/Watt. Which kind of negates the need for a die-size increase to stay competitive with AMD, but I digress.
 
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I don't get where they got this info, I haven't heard anything about that but I might of missed it:
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GK107, the mid-range Kepler GPU is being slated for an April launch.

Also they state 10% slower in 3DMark11, but 10% faster in BF3. Last thing I read about that only stated "slower in 3dmark11" which I assumed would be much less of a gap than 10%. If it's that much slower in the most used benchmark program, $500 per card would be a tough sale.
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I still dont understand how in DX11 it can be better? Fermi was better then HD 58XX because of Tessellation = Better DX11 performance. That really did not mean much. So based on this this will have even more Tessellation power? Which is already overkill for HD 7970?
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I still dont understand how in DX11 it can be better? Fermi was better then HD 58XX because of Tessellation = Better DX11 performance. That really did not mean much. So based on this this will have even more Tessellation power? Which is already overkill for HD 7970?

Could be they are referring to the support of DX11.1, or that there are other improvements besides tessellation. You got to remember, DX11 isn't all about that, it has other performance improving code.
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I still dont understand how in DX11 it can be better? Fermi was better then HD 58XX because of Tessellation = Better DX11 performance. That really did not mean much. So based on this this will have even more Tessellation power? Which is already overkill for HD 7970?

I am on this kick that DX9/DX10 support was holding back the DX11 hardware architecture. A hardware bottleneck if you will, and emphasis on the latest features (while being backwards compatible) has allowed them to optimize the DX11 architecture in such a way that it will perform x% better while retaining no difference in DX9/DX10 performance (in relation to previous generations) because they have isolated DX11 hardware from DX9/DX10 side.
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