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hm to water cool two 7970 and a CPU i would say Pump/Res>CPU>Rad>GPU>Rad
put up a dual 120mm rad at the rear exhuast and a 240mm rad on the top for the 7970 or via versa you can get the 240 or the CPU and the dual 120mm for the GFX redface.gif
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What do you mean with dual 120mm rad?

I assume he means a 240 on the rear exhaust, mounted on the outside of the case. If he means internally then he probably means a 120 Rad and not a 240. He's not made it very clear really.

As for his loop order, that doesn't matter a great deal either, best way to tube it up is use the shortest cleaniest possible lines and not worry about getting rads inbetween components.
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What do you mean with dual 120mm rad?
sorry m not much into WC but i guess
this is a normal 120mm Rad
400
and this is a dual 120mm Rad
477
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pls correct me if m wrong guys redface.gif
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This is a dual 120, aka 240 aka 2x120.
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No, I recommend that you should get two 240 radiators smile.gif
If you buy a 480 radiator, I think you will have problems mounting it biggrin.gif
But I still don't know your ambient temperature, and having more rads results that you can run fans at a slower rpm smile.gif
I suggest you look for pumps at performance-pcs.com instead. I have had great customer service there as well smile.gif
Major differences in prices, wow!
Cpu block
Gpu block
Pump
Hosing
Fittings barb or compression fittings for example.
Reservoir is optional, but is recommended to have before the pump inlet.
Radiators of course
Fans
What kind of budget are you aiming for?
EDIT :
Ofc, you need pt nuke or silver coil. Anti corrosive additive is optional, but not terribly important usually.
You only need to add this to distilled water, no other fluids needed.
I use battery water though, its also demineralized/deionized as well as distilled and purified. I think it serves as a extra precaution if spills are to occur. I think it has contributed to saving my buttocks for some unlucky spills.

hey sorry about not posting the temps.It gets very hot here, usually around 33 degrees celcius outside and maybe 35-40 degrees in my room.Yes its very hot.No wonder the reference 7970's have temps of 85 degrees at 65 % fan speed:mad:

Budget isnt an issue, but I am not going to buy the most expensive parts for a few degree difference.
Edited by raxf - 3/6/12 at 4:14am
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What do you mean with dual 120mm rad?
sorry m not much into WC but i guess
this is a normal 120mm Rad
400
and this is a dual 120mm Rad
477
300
pls correct me if m wrong guys redface.gif

That is a push pull configuration, you mentioned 240 radiator, and dual 120mm radiator, so I thought you meant sandwiched rads smile.gif
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MCP 655 or MCP 355 would be all you need pump-wise. Those cost around $60-80.

I would recommend heatkiller blocks for your 7970s. Very nice blocks, and good company.

Swiftech Apogee HD or XSPC Raystorm for your CPU blocks. They are the two top contenders.

Pick out a reservoir that catches your fancy. You can get a pump/reservoir combo if you wanted to.

Fittings:
There are two kinds. Barb fittings and compression fittings. Barb fittings require some sort of clamp, I would recommend worm gear clamps. They are much cheaper, but don't look as nice. Compression fittings cost much more, but they are nicer looking. Choose based on your budget and aesthetic preferences.

Tubing:
I would recommend either 3/8" ID 5/8" OD, or 1/2" ID 3/4" OD tubing. Tygon comes highly recommended, although I've used Prolimatech LRT tubing for 2 years now without issue. 3/8" ID if you need to make tight bends and/or like smaller tubing, 1/2" ID if you like the look of larger tubing.

3x120 radiator should be sufficient, but you have nowhere to put that in your case without modding. 2 2x120 radiators will do the job better. The Black Ice GTX radiators will give you the best performance with AP-15 fans.
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What do you mean with dual 120mm rad?

Dual 120 means 2x120. Triple is 3x120, etc.
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EDIT :
Ofc, you need pt nuke or silver coil. Anti corrosive additive is optional, but not terribly important usually.
You only need to add this to distilled water, no other fluids needed.
I use battery water though, its also demineralized/deionized as well as distilled and purified. I think it serves as a extra precaution if spills are to occur. I think it has contributed to saving my buttocks for some unlucky spills.

Deionized water is actually bad for copper blocks. It is more corrosive than pure distilled water.

Tygon is expensive, and IIRC not particularly recommended. Primochill I have heard several ones have mentioned.
There is also push fittings, and quick release, but not that much used.
If you need to have tight bends, you can always use anti kink springs.

I haven't heard about demineralized water being corrosive to copper blocks, so I have to check further into that. Thanks for the tip smile.gif
Edited by NorxMAL - 3/6/12 at 4:18am
post #16 of 36
OP can go with these following setup too
503
480
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post #17 of 36
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Originally Posted by NorxMAL View Post

That is a push pull configuration, you mentioned 240 radiator, and dual 120mm radiator, so I thought you meant sandwiched rads smile.gif
no you did not get it wait the normal 120mmRad
500
and i mean by dual 120mm Rad is this
500
the dual 120 mm rad is more thicker the the normal 120mm Rad is is basically 2 120 mm Rad parallel to each other rather then a 240 mm Rad redface.gif
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The way I would approach this is to get a different case or mount external.Not every case is a good candidate for watercooling.The case is like the foundation,you would not build a house on a sub-standard foundation would you.I think you will be much happier with the proper case selected for the job.Watercooling is not an afterthought,it needs to be considered right from the beginning.

EDIT: I will ammend my comment and say for an experienced watercooler using this case and fitting multiple radiators in would not be an issue,but it is not the way to go for a first job. If you selected a case that made fitting components in it easier then you can gain experience and use this experience on your next, more complicated build.
Edited by PCCstudent - 3/6/12 at 4:27am
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post #19 of 36
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no you did not get it wait the normal 120mmRad
500
and i mean by dual 120mm Rad is this
500
the dual 120 mm rad is more thicker the the normal 120mm Rad is is basically 2 120 mm Rad parallelthe each other rather then a 240 mm Rad redface.gif

Your wrong mate a dual 120 is a 240. Doesn't matter how thick a rad is, its either a 120, 240, 360, 480. There all multiples of 120. It about length not thickness.
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That is a push pull configuration, you mentioned 240 radiator, and dual 120mm radiator, so I thought you meant sandwiched rads smile.gif
no you did not get it wait the normal 120mmRad
500
and i mean by dual 120mm Rad is this
500
the dual 120 mm rad is more thicker the the normal 120mm Rad is is basically 2 120 mm Rad parallel to each other rather then a 240 mm Rad redface.gif

Oh, I was too hasty smile.gif
I got thrown of a bit by the push pull configuration being depicted, so I have a tiny excuse right there biggrin.gif
But it is still a 120mm rad, just a thick one smile.gif
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