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yeah i know that, but asking for password? really?

Your employer can ask to see your house and how you cook dinner if they want to. They can deem you unfit for their culture as long as they aren't being sexist or racist, etc.

In GA, they can also fire you without giving a reason.

You can also claim invasion of privacy and or expect that your employer won't have any employees. This is not one sided as you are making it out to be.
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The whole point of a password is to stop other people going on your account. This defeats the point on having a password.

If I had to give them my password I would just write down "0121GoDo1"
    
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No company has the right to request this information. My Facebook page is private and it's that way for a reason. It's my page between my friends and I quite simply wouldn't entertain any company that would ask for this information. It's a breach of privacy and they have no rights to do that.
There are criminal records checks and sex register checks which I'm fine with. Those are all they need. If they want to know about me then they can search me on Google and comb through the thousands of people with my name and get all the information I've personally and purposely left public. Anything I've deemed private is exactly that.
If celebrities are entitled to injunctions to protect their privacy then I'm entitled to protect mine. You wouldn't see a movie studio asking for an actors facebook details, or the CEO of ActivisionBlizzard being asked for his Facebook details when he moves back to running a food company. So what's different here?
Nothing. We're all people and we all have the human right to privacy and freedom from harassment. We also have the right to not apply or take these jobs, sure, but these companies shouldn't be able to legally ask for that information. It's about time the government protected our rights and stopped them from being able to ask for personal and private information. Otherwise it's going to get to the point that companies will require cameras and microphones in your house to track everything you do and monitor everything you say. It's the exact same thing.

A company has every right to ask for this information and you have every right to decline. It is not a breach of any privacy law (currently) to "ask" for this information.

Companies need any way possible to weed out potential employees. What some of you don't understand is that as a hiring manager I get literally thousands of applications/resume's for one position. How do I determine the best candidate, as quickly as possible?
First HR will go through the list and any resumes that indicate race, gender, religion or other personal information are tossed in the round file without further consideration. This is due to the potential for a lawsuit (you didn't hire me because I am a purple and yellow stripped female...)
Second, I would go through them and check for relevance (is a janitor applying for a chip design position). Those get round filed too.
Third, I would check experience (depending on the job requirements) and jobs. I save the ones that may not work now, but might in the future (I have almost 5k resumes on file).
From the rest of the stack I will round file resume's with blatant grammar issues and spelling errors.

Now, after sifting through 1000 resume's I am down to about 500 (usually more) so I need another way to weed out the candidates. My team and I will go through and toss out any other odd ones (like bright paper, odd fonts and gimmicky stuff (save that for your marketing job please)). From the rest, we will pick out top 20 candidates and do google searches on those. Any weird stuff shows up (like said binge drinking photo's) and they are gone too.

After said weeding is done, we will usually end up with about 20 "qualified" candidates. We usually weed out another 10-15 based off the phone interview and then more during the first interview. I have asked several people to go home, and change into something more work appropriate before the interview even starts. That is a big one. If you show up for an interview blatantly under dressed you will not get the job.

I will however never ask anyone to show me their FB page for kicks or as a condition of employment. We do run background and financial reports on anyone we are thinking of hiring.
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I meant according to you who hires people. My thought on this is you wouldn't hire me but that would be illegal. Morality is totally subjective.
BTW I don't wear dresses. I prefer slacks and a t shirt biggrin.gif

My first answer stands.

I (and my company) adhere to all rules in place for hiring and firing individuals. (yes I know it is a safe answer)
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I currently crunch BOINC under my IRL name for my university team. When you google my name, you get my facebook, an FCC report I filed, and pages upon pages of the BOINC projects I participate(ed) in. I have effectively google-bombed my name to my advantage. thumb.gif
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It's stuff like this that makes me glad I work for myself.

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I currently crunch BOINC under my IRL name for my university team. When you google my name, you get my facebook, an FCC report I filed, and pages upon pages of the BOINC projects I participate(ed) in. I have effectively google-bombed my name to my advantage. thumb.gif

well-played and well-executed thumb.gif
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It's stuff like this that makes me glad I work for myself.

personally, I'm less concerned with work than I am with schools doing it. Places of employment are making a seriously heavy investment in the people they hire (salaries, insurance, pensions/retirement investments...) so I see much less of a problem of employers wanting to gain as much information as possible about their employees before they hire them. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not in support of this at all, but if I had to make a choice between the two, I think I would be more concerned about schools doing something like this than employers
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personally, I'm less concerned with work than I am with schools doing it. Places of employment are making a seriously heavy investment in the people they hire (salaries, insurance, pensions/retirement investments...) so I see much less of a problem of employers wanting to gain as much information as possible about their employees before they hire them. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not in support of this at all, but if I had to make a choice between the two, I think I would be more concerned about schools doing something like this than employers


I don't agree with it in either respective use and advocate neither.

 

Companies make a big deal out of not mixing business with pleasure, yet use our pleasure as a way of measuring whether we're up to standards for their business?

 

It's hard not to see the irony in that.

 

Facebook and other social sites are supposed to be something to do when we out of work, chill out time, and just in general socialising, not something for employers to check up on us when they feel ike it. It's a social networking site, not a CV.

 

I honestly would never give this sort of information to any employer who asked for it. Ever. What I do in my own time really is none of their business, and I think that any company that goes this far is crossing the line regardless of how they try and justify it.

 

 

 

 


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If it you were at school and they asked if you had facebook then you said "No" even if you did they cant exactly say "yes you do" because then you could say "Why are you stalking schoolchildren on facebook"...
    
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I really hope the ACLU prevails and this sort of screening is deemed illegal (not just in Maryland). I really don't see the difference from an employer/school asking for an email or a Facebook password. Both are electronic means to communication that people send with the belief that the communication will be kept between certain parties.
 
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