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a windows fanboy said to me that linux is unstable and windows is always stable :O ive used both and i find it more stable then windows in most thing can someone tell me which is more stable.
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a windows fanboy said to me that linux is unstable and windows is always stable :O ive used both and i find it more stable then windows in most thing can someone tell me which is more stable.

Linux and Windows are only as stable as the people who install them and use them.

Also I think we should have a sweepstake on how many replies it takes before this descends into a flamewar.
Edited by Plan9 - 3/6/12 at 5:49pm
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so pritaclly it is even between the two? and if it does turn into a flame war could a mod lock this topic
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so pritaclly it is even between the two?

I would say it's an impossible comparison. There's no such thing as an average install and average usage given the lack of specifics you've requested.

For example, Win7 default install offline - secure and stable. Win7 default install online - insecure and unstable. Win7 with anti-virus online - secure and stable.

It's a similar case for users: Win7 with someone who just plays Solitaire and types Word documents - secure. Win7 with someone who likes to randomly delete files and install random software - potentially unstable.

And then you have a case with hardware too. Good hardware - stable. Bad hardware - unstable.

....and all this is a similar case with Linux too.


Then what do you compare with? Which Linux distro and to what version of Windows? Ubuntu compared with Win Server 2008 wouldn't be a fair comparison. But even then, which Linux server distro?


These days all you can really argue (with any accuracy) is a properly administrated copy of Windows or Linux should both be stable. A poorly managed install of either Win or Linux may not be stable.
Edited by Plan9 - 3/6/12 at 6:14pm
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In my opinion, it all depends on the individuals definition of stability.

My home servers been running without flaw for almost a year now without being rebooted. My desktop which runs pretty much 24/7 except for when I'm playing with it's guts. And has never crashed or had any other obvious errors.

Server runs on Arch and my desktop on Gentoo, which most would argue is unstable due to being bleeding edge. Yet I've not had a single problem with the Arch install in nearly 3 years now. And not an issue with the Gentoo install in little over a year. No crashes, never updated and suddenly had an unusable system, or even needed intesive care. None of the programs I run on a daily basis have bugs/crashes, at least no more than any normal Linux distro or even Windows for things such as Chrome/FireFox and other cross-platform programs.

And it's been the same general experience over every 'bleeding edge' distro I've tried that was supposedly unstable or prone to errors. Maybe you call me lucky, some will even call me an "Arch-tard". But that's been my overall experience.

And Plan9 is right, this is bound to turn into a flame-war. People on OCN can't accept others have different opinions or views, and can't debate in a cival manor. It'll be like every other Linux vs Windows vs Mac thread, or Apple thread that's ever been on OCN.

Also right about the proper administration. If you're an idiot on either system, it'll go bad. If you maintain properly, it'll go smooth. For the most part.
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a windows fanboy said to me that linux is unstable and windows is always stable :O ive used both and i find it more stable then windows in most thing can someone tell me which is more stable.

It might also be worth noting that if this guy was a Windows fanboy, then he probably tried to use Linux as if it was Windows (eg manually install software from random sources, etc) and then complained when things fell apart pretty quickly. It would be like a sailor buying a new sports car then moaning that cars are rubbish because it sank when he tried to sail it. Adapting to the Linux paradigm is a step that some Windows users skip when trying Ubuntu / whatever for the 1st time. Skipping that step will lead to poor administration which may then lead to instabilities.
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It might also be worth noting that if this guy was a Windows fanboy, then he probably tried to use Linux as if it was Windows (eg manually install software from random sources, etc) and then complained when things fell apart pretty quickly. It would be like a sailor buying a new sports car then moaning that cars are rubbish because it sank when he tried to sail it. Adapting to the Linux paradigm is a step that some Windows users skip when trying Ubuntu / whatever for the 1st time.

ROFL. That's the best analogy I've heard in a long time.

@Shrak: Your (and Plan's) point about proper care is exactly on the spot. I may not like windows for certain reasons (such as the backAwords way it does certain things) but I'm not going to flat out lie and say windows is a virus and plague (I reserve that for talking about Apple the company but not OSX). The whole point is based on skill level, desire, and time to care for a system. If you can keep Gentoo or Arch rock solid then it's because you know what you are doing and that is perfect. Me...lets just say Slackware is as far down the time consuming rabbit hole I want to go and I know I'd screw Gentoo up somehow. So yeah, stability is somewhat subjective without a measurable parameter. An OS is a tool...use whichever one you agree with the most and are happiest with really.








However, I do throw out the fact that the stock markets in many countries are run by Linux. tongue.gif
     
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i think in general when it comes to server uptime, the consensus industry wide is that linux has the edge over windows. for a server, linux wins, period. We have "windows update" at work... Patch tuesday or patch friday, whatever it is. Most of the time it's fine, but once every ~6 months, it's a big adventure and the machine is offline while they "fix it" (reboot reboot reboot). Our uptime is only ever on the order of months, not years like it should be. And a lot of those monthly updates simply require a reboot.

My desktop here since i built the install, i have rebooted only due to
A) kernel upgrade - once every 3 months or so
B) hardware swap / cleaning / moving around -- this is all me
C) power outage - i should have a ups by now
D) a bug with a prior version of xorg that forced my hand with the sysrq key...rolleyes.gif
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Both are stable, depending on how you use them. I've never had a problem with Windows or Linux to be honest
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Depends on the distribution. Each of them could be very stable. For example, an enterprise distribution or distribution with a slow release cycle (like Debian) can more stable than a standard Windows install. But yes, it is how you use it and what programs you install that determines how stable your system is.

People use Linux especially for servers because of its stability and support.
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