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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner
Ugh... Well that sucks. I don't really know what DX is or does, just that games need it. So couldn't game developers meet together and come up with a new standard? Why should microsoft make the standard for gaming? Guess they're just too powerful.
Even with no knowledge about DirectX, you properly summed it up.

OpenGL has been around for years and years, and has always had roughly a 20% performance lead over DirectX. Now with more CPU overhead, that will widen slightly. Despite that, larger numbers of developers are moving to DirectX. I guess the appeal of targetting both the XBox360 and PC at the same time struck home.
     
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post #102 of 114
That's why I'm sticking with XP for a while still.. that and the money involved

(to who it may concern, now it's my 1000th post... stupid off topic)
    
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post #103 of 114
MS said that DX10 was supposed to dramatically reduce CPU overhead. Guess not
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post #104 of 114
Man, this sucks. You need so much hardware to properly use vista, then they tell you that won't help your gaming? ....
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post #105 of 114
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Man, this sucks. You need so much hardware to properly use vista, then they tell you that won't help your gaming? ....
Yet, we'll need it for future gaming. We're being forced to downgrade it seems lol
post #106 of 114
Microsoft have always been pretty crap at code, each version of linux thats released will have been `OPTIMIZED` that word has been removed from the microsoft dictionary
they have ALWAYS relied on the fact that CPUs get a little faster with each day.
now we have DUAL cores (Microsoft coder: W000T, now we have one to run our OS and one to run applications!)
QUAD cores? HAHAHAHa yeah! TWO will be used for ya OS and ONE to run your applications
SLI/Crossfire how about one of your cards to run the nice pretty screen in the background and one to run your game?

Does this seem like an unending amount of resources going to something that generally runs in the background?

Why does my background have to look so pretty when Im looking at Overclock.net? all I see of the background is the start bar across the bottom of the screen!
And when Im blowing the crap out of something in my latest game am I looking at the pretty background?

Is it me or have microsoft lost it a bit?

Why should I spend so much money on something thats only giving me the use of half the available poke that the hardware is capable of?
and keeping the rest to itself with a pretty background?

anyone remember the rolling stones number redone as a song about win95?

says it all!
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well that suxs
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Whatever it takes to get the point across



Amen. Only reason MS sucks is because it doesn't have the kind of competition we need. Even if you make linux really easy to operate, it's not an operating system with a standard. Mainstream games aren't written for linux, which is one of its drawbacks, but also, linux is not what you find on your average dell. MS is a monopoly, and thats the major problem right now. What we need is a highly efficient and intuitive OS to begin with, one thats inexpensive and is found on every average computer

This is exactly the reason i am interested in Linux. People ask me whats the point of using linux? Well I am interested in linux because its the closest thing there is to competing with Windows.

Two companys competing means we the consumers get better products. AMD vs Intel or ATi vs Nvidia. Microsoft vs ??? they dont have to release any thing decent.
    
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Or just make it so that when you start up a game, Windows just dies and you get a console like game experience where all the hardware is dedicated to the game (same idea for rendering or things like that) the only things that should be loaded are necessary drivers, for me all I have loaded are my mouse, video and sound drivers and that's it. Zero other processes start up with XP and that's the way I like it, as I said before Linux (specifically Ubuntu) was way better at this than XP but both of them are a leage apart from Vista.

Anyways games don't need to be written for Linux, all they need to do is support OpenGL and Linux can handle the rest.
And also not require IE. The WINE project seems to do very well running games written for OpenGL that dont require M$. The WINE project is also improving all the time.
    
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