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I already noticed that my games ran alot slower than in XP. I tested CS:S and got lower frames. Same with Doom3, Oblivion, NFS:MW. Heck I even ran an Aquamark3: In XP I get 90K, in Vista I get 55K. So thats a big performance hit in my book. And not to mention that it uses 500mb of ram just sitting on the desktop. I'm gonna stick with XP Pro for as long as I can.
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I'll give my straight opinion on that, that statment makes 0 sense. What was fixed with XP in SP1 and 2 can be fixed with Vista as well. It's just an operating system, not a book set in stone, . For pete sake its not even officialy released yet, stop expecting so much!
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The only thing that should bring the computer to its knees is software that makes full use of the processing power. Vista, even through my testing, is really crappy. Theres no reason why it should eat up half of my memory just sitting at the desktop. A linux distribution that runs in ram space runs so much more efficiently than this, and TBH, I don't think Vista is going to be sitting on my HDD for long..
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Things to live by:
If you want it to be crappy: Go M$
If you want it to actually work for you: Go Linux

It's the truth really .

Im getting whiplash here......



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Im not saying that it should bring our PCs to its knees, AOL is crappy if it brings the computers its made to run on to their knees.
Um, so why isnt Vista crap if it it brings computers it SHOULD be designed to run on to it's knees? This O is not designed just for people like us....this is the new run everything OS.....this OS needs to be able to run on standrd, pre-built machines for the average public. Right now the standard computer sold by the prebuilt's is a single core or low end dual core CPU system with 256-512MB of RAM........sure, they have lower end versions of Vista......you can tturn off or not activate the new stuff and so it can run ok on the standard systems.....but then what are you left with? You just paid $300 for an OS who's main backbone is AERO and DX10......and you have to deactivate that to run it......so you're staring at a sceen that looks like a Win2K box and wondering what you just spent $300 for.


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Vista is not meant to run on current gen PCs THEREFORE, it will run a bit slower UNTIL mature DX10 GFX cards emerge, compatable drivers come out, and a service pack comes out.

Why isn't it designed to run on current gen PCs? As it has been mentioned, and ignored by you, this OS has been in development for years......

Also, I once again can't fathom why computer software is veiwed so differently from everything else.

Would you buy a Corvette that had 3 of the engine cylinders deactivated if the dealer told you "We'll fix that later...."

Would you buy a TV that could only tune in odd nmber channels if the salesmen said "Bring it back next year, we'll fix that."

Then why would you pay so much money for an OS that will barely work.....under the assumption they'll fix it later?

Fix it FIRST and maybe I'll by it.



Now, it's a given that Vista will get better with patches, that's what MS does. XP wasn't great at launch either, 2 major Service Packs and a bunch of minor tweaks later, it's actually ok..........so now it's time for a new buggy POS that they can update for 5 years......but why do we reward MS for being lazy?

I promise you if there was a solid competitor out there, MS would have to work faster and better.......5 years for a bug filled mess is not going to win you any high pofit margins.....unless your MS and have the market monopoly......
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Loving the Corvette analogy. I agree 100%. Problem is, they feel rushed to release due to demand. That's why you get a 3/4 working product.
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Im getting whiplash here......
Whatever it takes to get the point across

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I promise you if there was a solid competitor out there, MS would have to work faster and better.......5 years for a bug filled mess is not going to win you any high pofit margins.....unless your MS and have the market monopoly......
Amen. Only reason MS sucks is because it doesn't have the kind of competition we need. Even if you make linux really easy to operate, it's not an operating system with a standard. Mainstream games aren't written for linux, which is one of its drawbacks, but also, linux is not what you find on your average dell. MS is a monopoly, and thats the major problem right now. What we need is a highly efficient and intuitive OS to begin with, one thats inexpensive and is found on every average computer
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Its not the GUI that will cause the damage but there new API design i think.
I think AERO will cause a lot of the slowdowns though, as it requires so much system resources to get going. I use the Classic Windows theme to keep resources down.

Also what card was this tested on I wonder?

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They should make a gaming mode, where you boot into windows holding a key and it loads nearly nothing, just for gaming.

Or even a gaming mode that sets everything in windows vista to the lowest setting.
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So this means that my 6800GS (that already struggles with highend games on high settings on XP), is going to perform similarly to a 6600GT on Vista?

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wwell jsut like optimizing xp so that it doesnt use any resources im sure that vista will allow you to "turn stuff off" so that its performance will be faster just wont look as pretty

another thing isnt there a new os from microsoft that is coming like a year after vista thats suppose to be the big change (vista- prettier xp) i thought i read something on it a long time ago
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Originally Posted by Murlocke
They should make a gaming mode, where you boot into windows holding a key and it loads nearly nothing, just for gaming.

Or even a gaming mode that sets everything in windows vista to the lowest setting.
Or just make it so that when you start up a game, Windows just dies and you get a console like game experience where all the hardware is dedicated to the game (same idea for rendering or things like that) the only things that should be loaded are necessary drivers, for me all I have loaded are my mouse, video and sound drivers and that's it. Zero other processes start up with XP and that's the way I like it, as I said before Linux (specifically Ubuntu) was way better at this than XP but both of them are a leage apart from Vista.

Anyways games don't need to be written for Linux, all they need to do is support OpenGL and Linux can handle the rest.
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Whatever it takes to get the point across



Amen. Only reason MS sucks is because it doesn't have the kind of competition we need. Even if you make linux really easy to operate, it's not an operating system with a standard. Mainstream games aren't written for linux, which is one of its drawbacks, but also, linux is not what you find on your average dell. MS is a monopoly, and thats the major problem right now. What we need is a highly efficient and intuitive OS to begin with, one thats inexpensive and is found on every average computer
MS almost got split up into 3 different companies in an antitrust suit. Imagine...had MS lost that suit, you might have 3 different versions of Vista, all 20 times better than whats getting released now.
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