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Intresting thread, I own an H70, Cooler Master V6 and an XSPC water loop. I can say that the CM and the H70 perform about the same with the CM cooling better with the fans turned up. As for the water loops they cool the best and they're very cheap now. You can build your own water loop or buy a kit for around $170, with the cheapest kit at $129 all giving you the full benfits of water cooling. IMO I wouldn't consider a closed system closer to air by a long shot. With the H70 you still have a RAD filled with liquid and a CPU water block. Only difference between a closed and custom is the liquid used and the ability to upgrade (with similar results in performance, but that could be said about a poorly setup custom loop) . Air coolers are HUGE, which is why I went H70 in the first place, I didn't like the size of the air coolers. But each to his own. When I built my family/ folding system I went for the V6 because I always liked the way they looked and wanted to try a higher end air cooler so I could be informed about the Pros and Cons of both,, BTW the V6 cools really really good!!! I hope people here giving opinions on the two types at least owned and tried both, if not that would be cosidered a very one sided opinion.
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While it is true, that large air coolers are more efficient than the H50, H60, H70, H80 units....they're also a LOT larger in size. What if somebody can't physically fit a super large heatsink in their case? The Hydro series coolers absolutely SHINE in this aspect. I wouldn't mind putting an H50 (or similar) in my HTPC machines honestly, which those WOULD fit. Otherwise I'm limited to stock style coolers (blow down).

If you have no choice then a Corsair/Antec CLC may be an option but when you do have a choice they don't make sense based on thermal properties, cost and noise. There are few situations where a quality HSF doesn't out-perform a Corsair/Antec type closed loop cooler. Most people don't need big HSFs for HTPC use though some of the larger HSFs can be run fanless for stealth cooling.

I always recommend that people Buy What Makes Them Happy. It would be irresponsible however to not point out the shortcomings of the Closed Loop Coolers as many people falsely believe they perform far better than they actually do, because they are water based.
Edited by AMD4ME - 3/10/12 at 5:27pm
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If you have no choice then a Corsair/Antec CLC may be an option but when you do have a choice they don't make sense based on thermal properties, cost and noise. There are few situations where a quality HSF doesn't out-perform a Corsair/Antec type closed loop cooler. Most people don't need big HSFs for HTPC use though some of the larger HSFs can be run fanless for stealth cooling.
I always recommend that people Buy What Makes Them Happy. It would be irresponsible however to not point out the shortcomings of the Closed Loop Coolers as many people falsely believe they perform far better than they actually do because, they are water based.

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Well said.

Not of he was implying that closed loop systems don't perform well. From experience I can tell the OP and this forum that closed loop systems perform great and it takes a lot. . of guess out of purchasing the hardware . Almost any closed loop system will out perform an air cooler.they also allow high ocs. I don't use my h70 anymore not because it was crap like I said I wanted to try a air cooler and compare. My results were they performed about the same with the air cooler taking up a lot of space.but I do agrees about buying what makes people happy
 
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Not of he was implying that closed loop systems don't perform well. From experience I can tell the OP and this forum that closed loop systems perform great and it takes a lot. . of guess out of purchasing the hardware . Almost any closed loop system will out perform an air cooler.they also allow high ocs. I don't use my h70 anymore not because it was crap like I said I wanted to try a air cooler and compare. My results were they performed about the same with the air cooler taking up a lot of space.but I do agrees about buying what makes people happy

Any CLC cooler does not out-perform air coolers, which is why I posted the info. above to correct this false belief. wink.gif

Numerous tests have shown that none of the Corsair H series or similar Antec models, other than the H100 are as thermally efficient as a quality HSF.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h50-fort120,2370-5.html

Even though the H100 can match or be a few degrees cooler than a quality HSF, for the H100 to achive this cooling the fan must be run on high making it noisy compared to the quality HSFs. You can add a second fan to make a push-pull set-up and lower the noise, but that makes the H100 a worse value cost wise. The H100 is a poor value either way and you always have the water-leak liability with any H2O system. This is why Closed Loop Coolers are a poor choice for most PC enthusiast. Open loop H2O systems are better but they tend to cost ~$175 and up. Other than for a hobby, these water-cooled systems don't make much sense for most people. If they appeal to you however, go for it.

Buy What Makes You Happy but be aware of the facts regarding H2O system performance metrics before you spend your money.
Edited by AMD4ME - 3/10/12 at 7:20pm
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ahh.. totally confused..... please don't mind that...please recoomend any good cooler either a air or water what you think is best for me.....

please please help me out..... thumb.gif
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Any CLC cooler does not out-perform air coolers, which is why I posted the info. above to correct this false belief. wink.gif
Numerous tests have shown that none of the Corsair H series or similar Antec models, other than the H100 are as thermally efficient as a quality HSF.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-h50-fort120,2370-5.html
Even though the H100 can match or be a few degrees cooler than a quality HSF, for the H100 to achive this cooling the fan must be run on high making it noisy compared to the quality HSFs. You can add a second fan to make a push-pull set-up and lower the noise, but that makes the H100 a worse value cost wise. The H100 is a poor value either way and you always have the water-leak liability with any H2O system. This is why Closed Loop Coolers are a poor choice for most PC enthusiast. Open loop H2O systems are better but they tend to cost ~$175 and up. Other than for a hobby, these water-cooled systems don't make much sense for most people. If they appeal to you however, go for it.
Buy What Makes You Happy but be aware of the facts regarding H2O system performance metrics before you spend your money.

Dude, I owned all 3 they all perform good within 5 to 10 degrees including my full loop. And all tests state that. I wasn't saying anything was way better then the other, it's more a matter of size and budget. if you used all three too you would know this. That's what I was trying to say. I like all three options and again they all work well. I was getting into members slamming hardware when they never tried it. That happens way to much here. So you can quote things you read from the big boy or you can go out but the hardware then make a statement on things you know. Those are facts that people can rely on.
 
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ahh.. totally confused..... please don't mind that...please recoomend any good cooler either a air or water what you think is best for me.....
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Go with a h100 , it's one of the most popular coolers and has one of the best performance, don't take my word, google h100 reviews and you will find your answer, and if you don't have the space for the rad then h80 for sure
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Go with a h100 , it's one of the most popular coolers and has one of the best performance, don't take my word, google h100 reviews and you will find your answer

please answer my some questions question...
ques.1.
my carbide 400r will able to house that....

ques 2.
just suggest a good air cooler as good as h100 in cooling performance....

ques .3.
if i go with a h80.. do it worth going with a h80 over a h100 or not

please reply and feel free to answer what you think is best for me....
i'll be just touching a 4ghz ~4.2 ghz mark with the cooler on my phenom 1090t.... smile.gif

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Hxx series coolers perform great for their price to be honest. Especially if you team them with better flow fans.

The Silver Arrow is the only air cooler that out performs the H80 and almost ties with h100! So, if you have room for that, get the silver arrow, otherwise stick with Hxx series. But make sure to check where you want to mount the rad and fans, I had a lot of issues installing mine because I didn't.
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