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post #3211 of 9851
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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

Sorry but Those arms are pretty darn ugly.

I don't think they're ugly, just the fact that his desk is in a position that makes the arms highly visible. I was thinking of getting those arms for myself but they looked so slouched down. They wouldn't be so bad if the desk was against the wall, but the slouching part just wrecks it. I'm thinking of getting this if I end up going surround.
post #3212 of 9851
Recently, I think there are many reports of the monitor with a defect of the backlight.
Looking at an effective solution for it, this is just a defect of the PCB board.
The LCD panel is that there is no problem, it is lucky and regrettable.

I bought a Catleap once, it was not a problem. But It is uneasy that buy it again.
post #3213 of 9851
Input Lag/Video Playback/Overclocking Part 2 of 2 (Click here for Part 1)

Splitting up the Input Lag / Video Playback post to allow adding of more content.

Part 1:
- Input Lag comparison chart
- Gaming input lag
- 60Hz vs Overclocked comparison
- Why higher Hz matters so much for gamers who play FPS, Simulator, RTS, and many MMORGs
- Overclocking, Step-by-Step and Videos



Video Playback / Judder (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by siberx 

One important thing to keep in mind about doing a mild overclock to 65Hz is that while it while produce slightly smoother framerates overall (with a very slight reduction in input lag) it will misalign your refresh rate with standard video framerates of 30fps and 60fps. This means that, for example, watching a 30fps video on youtube will suddenly exhibit a lot more judder, the same way watching a 24fps video on 60Hz would. The holy grail is, of course, to run at 120Hz; this refresh rate is evenly divisible by 24, 30 and 60 fps - resulting in smooth playback of all common framerate formats (at least in north america). Since we currently can't hit that with any halfway decent panel, it's good to keep in mind that your video playback can be worsened by overclocking to uneven numbers; to play 24fps content smoothly you'd want to run at 48, 72 or 96Hz, and to play 30fps content smoothly you'd want to either use 60Hz or 90Hz.
If you're only aiming at improving your gaming experience with no concern for video playback (or don't mind switching between refresh rates depending on what you're doing) then by all means crank it up to whatever is stable! wink.gif

I know that 120hz looks better in games because it makes them look smoother. But how is it for watching movies? I watch a lot of movies / series on the computer monitor, which are usually in 24p (24 frames per second). Does going from 60hz to 120hz make a difference in how movies are shown?

Yes - it will make them look better. The reason is that 60 is not evenly divisible by 24; this results in judder where a particular frame of a 24 fps video is shown for a differing number of screen frames, resulting in a distracting "jerky" effect. This problem doesn't affect 24fps films shown in theatres as they run their projection systems at multiples of the video's framerate, so frame delivery is even. 120 *is* evenly divisible by 24, so each video frame is shown for exactly 5 frames instead of 2 or 3 frames alternately. Of course, this only helps you at exactly 120Hz (which is conveniently evenly divisible by 24, 30 and 60) but you can also improve the smoothness of your 24fps video by setting your refresh rate to 72Hz or 96Hz if you can't quite reach 120Hz (although this won't make you evenly divisible by 30/60, so you'll have to switch back for smooth frame delivery of content authored at those framerates).

When will people get over this? Seriously; there's nothing objectively better about low framerate; AT ALL. It's simply a habituation thing. Films would be more immersive and convincing at a higher framerate, period. Will it take big name directors switching to higher framerates to finally convince people? They couldn't figure it out on their own?

Chinese TV on non-OC Catleap

Movie on non-OC Catleap
non-OC PC gaming videos (Click to show)
Battlefield 3 Videos


Other videos
OC'ed PC gaming videos (Click to show)

Planetside 105Hz


World of Warcraft 1440p
PS3 Gaming @ 1080p on HDMI Catleap (Click to show) 1440p and 4k videos for your Catleap (Click to show)
YouTube supports 4k uploads. Look for videos with "4k" in their title and select "Original" in the quality menu and go full screen. Watch-out these files requires a fast internet connection.

Timescapes 4k mp4 download

Edited by sfsilicon - 4/22/12 at 6:06pm
post #3214 of 9851
Ive been sitting here debating if I even like my catleap -
whole matte vs glossy display ...
Ive noticed some eye strain with using my minitor and I dont notice any with my matte; wondering if its the glossy or the panel (saw someone else post about this).
Right now I have my catleap hooked up and my oldish asus TN (matte) and comparing - notice alot of differences between the two.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2700k Asus p8z68-v pro/gen3 6950 1gig 1536 shaders(899/1308)  soon to be 32 gigs of 2133 ripjaw x 
Hard DriveCoolingMonitorPower
256gb M4 crucial SSD, 3 640 aaks WD Corsair H80 (controller problem thou) Soon to be 27" catleap AX850 
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Lian-li pc7fnwb 
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post #3215 of 9851
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Originally Posted by Aguinas View Post

If you don't mind wasting money by sending it back, good luck to you.
In your opinion, what should I do else? How do you think? I know it is a cheap product, but I have just realized that I can't get used to its defects. I can't stand with that uneven backlight.
I actually wouldn't mind wasting some money if only I knew that the next would be a perfect one. Without any dust and backlight issue though.
Edited by urliam - 4/22/12 at 3:09pm
post #3216 of 9851
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Originally Posted by urliam View Post

In your opinion, what should I do else? How do you think? I know it is a cheap product, but I have just realized that I can't get used to its defects. I can't stand with that uneven backlight.
I actually wouldn't mind wasting some money if only I knew that the next would be a perfect one. Without any dusty and backlight issue though.

I think there is a mod for the backlight issue, but it looked like a soldering type mod. Do a thread search for backlight and you should find it.

I'd check with your seller to see what he recommends in this case. He might refund you some money to avoid the hassle of handling a return then you can sell it on craigslist and get a new one.
post #3217 of 9851
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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

Sorry but Those arms are pretty darn ugly. I don't know if its your setup, but you messed up everything. I didnt have to scratch my head to mount anything. I prefer paying higher for quality Pivot than those arms.
Look at my setup, sometime, you have to pay more for quality. Its my opinion. And the arms you are showing are just ugly, better get the CrossOver.

Nice set-up. So the crossover supports rotation into portrait mode? Cool, if so. Just picking on you for pitching a Crossover on the Catleap board, though I can see why. wink.gif

Not my set-up. I only have one Catleap and a 40" Samsung HDTV (mine is here). The monoprice stand is being used to place the Catleap on the left of my 40" since there is no more space on the table. I didn't want to do a wall mount and with this stand I didn't have too. If I were to get a second (monitor - don't think I will need eyefinity) then I'd get a second monoprice to match the first. Due to the stands flexibility it will work with my corner desk and hopefully find other uses for it in the future. The only problem I have with the stand is the size of the clamp was meant for a thinker desk. I do like its look, though I doubt I will see it much behind the monitor once everything is set-up.

The monoprice stand is great for the price, same way the Catleap is great for the price. If I can get the Catleap without a stand for less money then it would be an even better buy. I'm the type of guy that will buy a $200 CPU and OC it and laugh at the folks that buy the $800 one. wink.gif Not because I don't have the money, but because I don't have to and I'm willing to take the risk. That is just me. If you like a deal talk to me, if you like quality, style and low hassle, get an Apple.
Edited by sfsilicon - 4/22/12 at 4:58pm
post #3218 of 9851
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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

I am not convinced that over 100 Hz would be beneficial anyway. I could see the bump from 60 Hz to the 90-100 range being beneficial, but the 100-120 Hz range you are actually refreshing faster than the pixel response time. IMO 90-100 Hz should be the sweet spot.
Has anyone that has a 120 Hz monitor notice any difference between say 100 Hz?
Thinking about getting one of these B models just to play around with.

It was a good chunk of posts back but I believe they did say there was a bit of a difference.
post #3219 of 9851
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Originally Posted by urliam View Post

As it has already been reported here there is a flaw in the design of Catleap's backlight scheme. AFAIK every Catleap has this flaw, but the backlight issue appears itself in a randomly way. I mean that the majority of users never see any unevenness, somewhere it can be slightly visible at low level of brightness but also there are some samples where it shows itself in extremely dramatic way.
Mine is really bad:
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Increasing the brightness some steps up smooths the difference but the high level of brightness makes my eyes strain. Moreover, I can still see the difference at any level of brightness yet. Every time when I am looking through a forum with a grey background(OCN for example) I can easy distinguish a huge luminous yellow area and it's driving me nuts. Curiously, I cannot see any backlight bleeding with black background.
If you have some soldering skills you can try to fix the "left to right brightness" (avoid warranty of course). My soldering skills are zero unfortunately. Just read siberx's guide based on DASM's idea:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/yamakasi-catleap-monitor-club/2310#post_16911932
Now I am seriously considering returning my display. I just wanna be sure that it can be named "faulty". Besides two tiny spots which are apparently dust specks (note: mine is non tempered glass screen(!)), that uneven backlight makes me crazy.
I am going to send it back and ask for a replacement. I think i have a right to do so.


i have the exact same problem as you, left side is much darker. Was yours from bigclothcraft?
post #3220 of 9851
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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

I am not convinced that over 100 Hz would be beneficial anyway. I could see the bump from 60 Hz to the 90-100 range being beneficial, but the 100-120 Hz range you are actually refreshing faster than the pixel response time. IMO 90-100 Hz should be the sweet spot.
Has anyone that has a 120 Hz monitor notice any difference between say 100 Hz?
Thinking about getting one of these B models just to play around with.

Check the input lag link in my sig. Lots on info and vids so you can make your own opinion. 120Hz is the magic number for video. For Games it might be less of a benefit from 100-120Hz, but it never hurts. I think your bigger problem will be maintaining the framerate unless you already have a GX680.
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