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Whatever happens with the so called 680 happens.
What i'm worried about is the stacked PCI-E Connector.
I been using Arctic Coolers for my GFX Cards sinds the 7800 GTX and i wonder how they gonna deal with that PCI-E Connector. If they skip a cooler for the 680 due that i gotta have to wait for a Custom Design from Gainward, Gigabyte or Asus for that matter.
I really wonder why nVidia went that way.

Larger heat sink or fan perhaps needing the extra room is my guess.
     
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Sad to say, but I think I am going to skip this gen, and just get another 570, hopefully the gtx 780 won't be another overpriced midrange card. wha-smiley.png
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I think people are confusing the GTX680 for the replacement of GTX580, it is not! It is Nvidia's lower yield chips (28nm) coming out of fabrication, the true successor two GTX580 is most likely do late 2012 or early 2013. I also believe AMD is having to do the same, fabrication of low yield GPU's and later 2012 will be the Godzilla architecture. TDP will be where we expect it to be, at least minimum 300W TDP.
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I think people are confusing the GTX680 for the replacement of GTX580, it is not! It is Nvidia's lower yield chips (28nm) coming out of fabrication, the true successor two GTX580 is most likely do late 2012 or early 2013. I also believe AMD is having to do the same, fabrication of low yield GPU's and later 2012 will be the Godzilla architecture. TDP will be where we expect it to be, at least minimum 300W TDP.

Yeah, that is simply not true. what the 580 was to the 480, the 680 is to the 580. Nothing wrong with it, just not worth upgrading to for most people. Even people on 2-3 gen old cards are gaming perfectly fine, people are most likely going to wait until then can get a 100% increase from their current card/s to upgrade. Which makes a lot of sense. Most people hopped on the 5000 and 400 series that offered massive leaps in performance over the previous generation of cards. The next series from AMD/nvidia will most likely be more popular, because of true upgrade factor, and the fact that there might be more then 3 games that offer a good DX 11 experience by then.
    
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Yeah, that is simply not true. what the 580 was to the 480, the 680 is to the 580. Nothing wrong with it, just not worth upgrading to for most people. Even people on 2-3 gen old cards are gaming perfectly fine, people are most likely going to wait until then can get a 100% increase from their current card/s to upgrade. Which makes a lot of sense. Most people hopped on the 5000 and 400 series that offered massive leaps in performance over the previous generation of cards. The next series from AMD/nvidia will most likely be more popular, because of true upgrade factor, and the fact that there might be more then 3 games that offer a good DX 11 experience by then.

The GTX 780 will be the true successor to GTX 580, just because it performs a little better than GTX 580 doesn't make it the successor, not with specs like 256-bit and 190W TDP. I think the true successor with have specs similar to GTX 580 like (300W TDP) 384-bit/512-bit memory bus, and more than just a 500MB increase in the video buffer! The GTX 680's specs when you compare them with GTX 580's there not even close, true next generation performance comes in the form of GTX 780! It makes perfect sense that yields are going to suffer a bit early on when a new architecture is released, when the time is right Nvidia will release the successor to the GTX 580.



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By systemlord at 2012-03-11
Edited by Systemlord - 3/13/12 at 6:13pm
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The GTX 780 will be the true successor to GTX 580, just because it performs a little better than GTX 580 doesn't make it the successor, not with specs like 256-bit and 190W TDP. I think the true successor with have specs similar to GTX 580 like (300W TDP) 384-bit/512-bit memory bus, and more than just a 500MB increase in the video buffer! The GTX 680's specs when you compare them with GTX 580's there not even close, true next generation performance comes in the form of GTX 780! It makes perfect sense that yields are going to suffer a bit early on when a new architecture is released, when the time is right Nvidia will release the successor to the GTX 580.

I'm not waiting until Q4 (possibly later) on another "maybe". =/

If the 680 is better, I will buy it.. and come Q4 if 780 is truely that much better then I will sell the 680 and buy the 780.
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I'm not waiting until Q4 (possibly later) on another "maybe". =/
If the 680 is better, I will buy it.. and come Q4 if 780 is truely that much better then I will sell the 680 and buy the 780.

I understand why you don't want to wait for up to a year, hows your 4800 card handing games now? You will be leapfrogging Fermi (GTX 480) and Fermi refresh (GTX 580), I'm in your situation except for my bottleneck isn't so much my GPU as it is with my CPU! I skipped the refresh of Intel's Q9650, Nehalem and Sandy Bridge processors. At the time the Q6600 was available no games utilized more than two cores, now it's almost a must have!
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4800 card? I think you got Murlocke mixed up with ESP.
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I understand why you don't want to wait for up to a year, hows your 4800 card handing games now? You will be leapfrogging Fermi (GTX 480) and Fermi refresh (GTX 580), I'm in your situation except for my bottleneck isn't so much my GPU as it is with my CPU! I skipped the refresh of Intel's Q9650, Nehalem and Sandy Bridge processors. At the time the Q6600 was available no games utilized more than two cores, now it's almost a must have!

I'm running a 580.

To me it's not about being able to max games or not, but more about having the latest technology and messing with it. It's a hobby, I don't even play many games anymore. GW2 and D3 are the only games I plan on playing for the next year or so. My CPU/Mobo/RAM is the most outdated i've let my computer ever get.. and i'll be doing a full upgrade of those with ivy bridge coming... so I'll likely grab kepler too. At least, that was my plan before kepler started seeming subpar. If it's not much faster though, then I will wait on my GPU upgrade. If it's on par or better than the 7970, i'll probably grab it.
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I think we shouldn't jump into conclusions before we see actual reviews, after all no one except nvidia really knows how gtx 680 will perform. Btw remember this "leaked" image?

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To me it looks like what we are going to see as a gtx 680 originally was planned to be 670 ti, but performance of the card allowed nvidia to "promote" it to a gtx 680. That would also explain dual 6-pin PCI-E connectors and relatively low expected TDP. I guess nvidia wants to have an ace in the sleeve.
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