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Don't have xterm on here. And my window manager is hardly a GUI, unless you want to nitpick, lol. It's all terminals terminals terminals, but if you want to nitpick as anything outside of your framebuffer is a GUI even though you can draw images with it as well. Then yes it is. But as everything is done via 100% terminal emulators, it's as close as one can get.

A simple drawn toolbar with my workspace names printed. No graphics for a 'graphical' user interface tongue.gif

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Don't have xterm on here. And my window manager is hardly a GUI, unless you want to nitpick, lol. It's all terminals terminals terminals, but if you want to nitpick as anything outside of your framebuffer is a GUI even though you can draw images with it as well. Then yes it is. But as everything is done via 100% terminal emulators, it's as close as one can get.
A simple drawn toolbar with my workspace names printed. No graphics for a 'graphical' user interface tongue.gif
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whats running your terminal sessions? Or is it powered by your wm?
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If you can do it in a GUI environment, it can be done in a command line environment. Usually faster, too.
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whats running your terminal sessions? Or is it powered by your wm?

xterm is just another emulator, much like rxvt-unicode tongue.gif

Isn't needed.
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i know what xterm is. The point is window managers don't usually ship with inbuilt terminal emulators. They just manage windows. So to enable consoles inside an X, the WM will fork an instance of a standalone terminal and often w/o decorations (or in the case of full DE integration - use terminal emulator libs - such as how konsole's (KDE's default term) libs are used for desktop widgets and in panes on file managers and text editors). Even in Awesome (dwm fork), I just use xterm as the default terminal emulator.

So whatever WM your running must either have built in libs for terminal emulation, or it spawns an instance of a standalone TE. If the latter (which is norm anyway), then terminal session is running on an X11 app and thus arguably also a GUI application.

But I guess it's just a matter of how anal you want to get with the terminology. Though I am puzzled why you even run Xorg when all your work is inside a console. Surely you'd be better off with tmux and just switching tty when you need gecko / webkit?
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If you can do it in a GUI environment, it can be done in a command line environment. Usually faster, too.

Only a sith deals in absolutes. tongue.gif Honestly, why can't people just hybrid things? I mean there are definitely things each side can do faster/easier than the other. Plus, if you can't remember commands and how to use them terminal isn't going to be very fast at all. Plus, since the DEs/WMs are so much better in Linux why should we not enjoy them?

Speaking of hybrid...is there some way to just run a tty until you launch a program? I know it sounds pointless but I thought it would be pretty cool and possibly save the RAM/CPU if you only had to deal with a GUI for each individually launched program.
     
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Only a sith deals in absolutes. tongue.gif Honestly, why can't people just hybrid things? I mean there are definitely things each side can do faster/easier than the other. Plus, if you can't remember commands and how to use them terminal isn't going to be very fast at all. Plus, since the DEs/WMs are so much better in Linux why should we not enjoy them?
Speaking of hybrid...is there some way to just run a tty until you launch a program? I know it sounds pointless but I thought it would be pretty cool and possibly save the RAM/CPU if you only had to deal with a GUI for each individually launched program.

GUI's need a tty
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GUI's need a tty

So...you would basically have to switch from one tty to another for each program? redface.gif (Yes I am that "noobish")
     
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So...you would basically have to switch from one tty to another for each program? redface.gif (Yes I am that "noobish")

I think unless you're ssh tunnelling, all X11 apps run under the same tty. But to be honest I'm not sure about that.
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I think unless you're ssh tunnelling, all X11 apps run under the same tty. But to be honest I'm not sure about that.

Hmm...I don't suppose just trying it that way would work out well. redface.gif

PS: Does anyone else think that would be a neat idea for a distro...terminal/CLI until you launch a program?

And one other thing...what is the best "find" command? I often can't remember where things are in terminal and find seems to fail me a lot so I was hoping there was something else that would work better.
     
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