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i guess i will look into over clocking, but dont you need like a really good cooling setup and stuff for an OC? and there are possibilities of frying your cpu and stuff, i always just thought it was out of my budget. but i might just get a case for now and buy all this stuff when ivy releases, cause i definitely need a new case. the stock hp case is really really small and my hard drive is laying on the base cause there isnt enough room to put it into the crappy hard drive bay cause my graphic card and psu are too big ;p

and my stuff is all sata.

also, how do i properly overclock my graphic card? theres options for it in the ccc but i never turned them all the way up cause i assume it would make my graphic card really hot and that its only for people with cooling systems.
 
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That's a fair point about needing to know budget, but I do think I have to agree with Hatchet that the 2500 series chip is a better bang for the buck than say the 2600.
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i guess i will look into over clocking, but dont you need like a really good cooling setup and stuff for an OC? and there are possibilities of frying your cpu and stuff, i always just thought it was out of my budget. but i might just get a case for now and buy all this stuff when ivy releases, cause i definitely need a new case. the stock hp case is really really small and my hard drive is laying on the base cause there isnt enough room to put it into the crappy hard drive bay cause my graphic card and psu are too big ;p
and my stuff is all sata.
also, how do i properly overclock my graphic card? theres options for it in the ccc but i never turned them all the way up cause i assume it would make my graphic card really hot and that its only for people with cooling systems.

Definitely get a new case. There are lots of good options that are very affordable and if you watch newegg, you can usually get a great midtower case for about half price with a discount code, MIR and free shipping.

Yes, you do want aftermarket cooling to OC, but that doesn't mean you have to spend a fortune. Some of the very best aftermarket cooling solutions barely exceed a hundred dollars for pre-built kits. (I got my Corsair H100 for 90 bucks brand new on sale at Fry's.) On my P45 system I use an Asus V-60 cooler which does an EXCEPTIONAL job and was about 50 bucks if I remember right. You can also consider buying a used cooler which will likely require a new fan, but that's no big deal. Anyway, for 40-60 dollars you can have something quite good, and new, or super nice and used. I hope I'm not complicating this.

You don't need to OC your graphics card just because you OC your CPU/Mobo/Ram. If you choose to, both AMD and nVidia include tools for doing so in their little applications, so it's really very easy if you just follow a solid process.

Finally, you're in the right place for finding out how to safely overclock a system. smile.gif You should read around on the forums for various guides, but there are plenty. Yes, it's *possible* to fry your gear, but only if you don't follow the instructions in a good guide. If you try to jump ahead in the process, and don't take the requisite time to do the OC properly and safely, then you run a risk of damaging your gear. But if you educate yourself fully and follow a good set of step by step instructions for safely OC'ing your system, you should have no problems.

DEFINITELY Overclock if you want to learn a whole lot about your gear and have a lot of fun in the process. This place is great for getting reliable support from friendly people. Welcome to OCN. smile.gif
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i have a hard time giving a budget cause i see a huge price variation in processors and mobos lol so i dont know what a reasonable budget is, my budget is "semi high bang for my buck" tongue.gif i dont want cutting edge things, but i want the most efficiently prices higher end things. i guess seeing these prices i would be able to say my budget is like 350 then. Thats a pretty cheap mobo. What separates the 100 dollar ones from the 500 dollar ones?

and to the post above i just saw, i guess i will get a k series but i wont be overclocking real soon, considering im about to spend upwards of 300 dollars and i dont have a job. but if i do get this job i just applied for which is semi likely i will probably just go all out xD car and computer are the only things i need money for.
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i have a hard time giving a budget cause i see a huge price variation in processors and mobos lol so i dont know what a reasonable budget is, my budget is "semi high bang for my buck" tongue.gif i dont want cutting edge things, but i want the most efficiently prices higher end things. i guess seeing these prices i would be able to say my budget is like 350 then. Thats a pretty cheap mobo. What separates the 100 dollar ones from the 500 dollar ones?

Well, you always give up something, right? So if I may over generalize, when you get a cheaper board you're either getting lower quality components or fewer options.

ASRock does a fine job of making a good board, but they aren't the most robust board for Overclocking, in my opinion. IMHO, if you want the best board for OC, you go with Asus mid-high end boards. Others will steer you in other directions, and fairly safely so. Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI, and EVGA are also all good boards.

Sometimes you might find a cheaper board that is a Micro ATX instead of an ATX board. I find this to be an excellent option for saving money while still getting very good gear. An example would be the Asus Maximus IV Gene Z which gives you all the robust features of the Asus Maximus line of boards with the sacrifice of expansion ports. In terms of bang for your buck, if you're planning to OC, this is a good option if you don't need a lot of space to expand.

The one thing I'd say about Asus boards is that they are NOT the budget boards. They definitely cost more per feature than do other boards, which sort of takes them OUT of the "bang for buck" category, so my personal bias in this arena may not in fact align with your needs perfectly. For me, reliability and OC-ability are worth paying for, but you may not find this to be the case in your own build.

The 2500k/3570k are likely to be your bang for buck winners.

To try and touch upon other things that set a 500 dollar board apart from a 100 dollar board, you are looking at things like BIOS options and the level of control afforded by that BIOS, RAID options, quality of NB and SB components, quality of on board audio, number of motherboard header connections for USB/Firewire/Sata/IDE/Sound, built in cooling for NB/SB and voltage caps, amount and type of RAM supported by the board, number and type of external USB/NIC/Audio connections...

Also, you'll want to be sure that if you're going to go with Ivy Bridge that you get a "Gen 3" motherboard with some PCI 3.0 slots, otherwise you won't be taking full advantage of the Ivy Bridge features. You'll want a z68 board, or if you aren't buying the board in advance of the CPU, then you can just pick up a z77 board which will theoretically be better than a z68 board, but that remains to be seen. smile.gif
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Drats. I guess ill just buy the haf case i wanted from new egg, and then wait until the ivy releases and hopefully ill have a lot more money by then. Thank you guys and ill look into the overclocking.
Is there a possible way i could just upgrade one or the other, mobo/processor? Like could i just buy the motherboard now? Or the i5? and use it on my current mobo? ill post my mobo specs when i get home, but i generally want to know if its going to be likely.
 
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Drats. I guess ill just buy the haf case i wanted from new egg, and then wait until the ivy releases and hopefully ill have a lot more money by then. Thank you guys and ill look into the overclocking.
Is there a possible way i could just upgrade one or the other, mobo/processor? Like could i just buy the motherboard now? Or the i5? and use it on my current mobo? ill post my mobo specs when i get home, but i generally want to know if its going to be likely.
 
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Well, it just depends on what you have right now. If you have a board with an 1155 socket then you can upgrade the processor. If you don't, then you're stuck either going with a different generation of CPU for your upgrade, like the E8600 in a 775 board (if that is what you have), or waiting until you can do it all at once. I was in that situation myself until tax refunds this year, and was able to finally upgrade my motherboard/CPU/ram to what's in my System 1.75 rig now.
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I'd get a good motherboard now..with a cheaper cpu..probably a pentium g620
If you don't mind used..look here:
http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=1263
I'd pick the z68v-pro
 
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guys i updated my rig, but im still not sure about that mobo. sandra only says that much.
and im not gonna spend like 40 dollars less on a cpu i wont use for long id rather just buy the one im gonna use and pay more.
 
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