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the difference would be seen in windows loading time..file opening..etc
In these respects (like ..stuff people actually do)Deneb/Thuban/Sandy Bridge are better choices
IMO Thuban is the best for normal day-to-day things
Sabertooth and a 960T is a nice setup.
Comparable Intel Setup (p8p67 pro + 2500K) is roughly $100 more

Opening of files and loading times of windows doesn't seem to be that big of a deal to me, and I'm assuming it wouldn't be that noticeable in comparison if I OC'd the 8120 to 4.4 or 4.5 ghz?
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Also, the debate is open on why to pick the 7950 or the gtx 580 3gb, when picked, why choose one over the other
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Opening of files and loading times of windows doesn't seem to be that big of a deal to me, and I'm assuming it wouldn't be that noticeable in comparison if I OC'd the 8120 to 4.4 or 4.5 ghz?

As someone said "You can overclock a turd..but it's still a turd"
It's very noticeable..FX lasted 2 days in my comp.
You'd have to clock it to about 5.3 to get the performance of a thuban @ 4.2
If you want to get it,get it..but don't say you weren't warned
Also..x-fired 6870s beat a 7970
Edited by Schmuckley - 3/8/12 at 4:17pm
 
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As someone said "You can overclock a turd..but it's still a turd"
It's very noticeable..FX lasted 2 days in my comp.
You'd have to clock it to about 5.3 to get the performance of a thuban @ 4.2

what about the thuban makes it better than a 8120 for gaming? what mechanical part does it, what do I look for. Could I OC the thuban to 4.2 with just an aftermarket cpu fan?
I'm doing this next build w/o water cooling
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It was more of a question as to what makes one gpu better than another, if I'm going for visual orgasmic pleasures, (to play bf3, skyrim etc. on max) what am I looking for? Shader? core? bit? stream processors?
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So you would suggest the 8120 over the 8150? Why so?

They are literally, utterly, literally the exact same CPU with a different default multiplier from factory. Same instance of the 1090t vs 1100t.

Since they are both unlocked CPU's default multipliers mean absolutely nothing.
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the difference would be seen in windows loading time..file opening..etc
In these respects (like ..stuff people actually do)Deneb/Thuban/Sandy Bridge are better choices
IMO Thuban is the best for normal day-to-day things
Sabertooth and a 960T is a nice setup.
Comparable Intel Setup (p8p67 pro + 2500K) is roughly $100 more
Please, please, please stop posting anything relating technical information if you think that a CPU has any negligible effect on file opening.
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Also, the debate is open on why to pick the 7950 or the gtx 580 3gb, when picked, why choose one over the other

Well, 7950, as it's faster, OCs higher, uses much less power, it's quieter, often cheaper, has much more room for driver optimization, and scales very well in crossfire. The GTX 580 3GB has a better reference cooler, but that's about all it has going for it.


Also, I see no reason not to get an i5 2500k with an AsRock Z68 Extreme3 mobo over an FX 8120. The FX/ AM3+ mobo route seems cheaper at first, but you can OC the 2500k with a much cheaper cooler than you can with an FX. You could get a slightly cheaper PSU (~40-50 watts less OC'd, maybe) with one less case fan due to the lower power draw. On top of that, you get comparable multi-thread performance with much better single thread performance, and Sandy Bridge has a better Sata III controller for SSDs.
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Well, 7950, as it's faster, OCs higher, uses much less power, it's quieter, often cheaper, has much more room for driver optimization, and scales very well in crossfire. The GTX 580 3GB has a better reference cooler, but that's about all it has going for it.
Also, I see no reason not to get an i5 2500k with an AsRock Z68 Extreme3 mobo over an FX 8120. The FX/ AM3+ mobo route seems cheaper at first, but you can OC the 2500k with a much cheaper cooler than you can with an FX. You could get a slightly cheaper PSU (~40-50 watts less OC'd, maybe) with one less case fan due to the lower power draw. On top of that, you get comparable multi-thread performance with much better single thread performance, and Sandy Bridge has a better Sata III controller for SSDs.

I see that Z68 Extreme3 jumps from 1600mhz to 2133mhz, and the ram I had originally had in my build (the one im getting sat. night) has 1866mhz. would 2133mhz ram be worth getting over 1866, or 1600 even?
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The way I see it is, if you are going to be doing a lot of multi-threading or running some VM's, the FX 8xxx chips are amazing value for the money and will waste a 2500k on those tasks and this sis the only case I would recommend a FX over the 2500k. The problem with the FX's is that they have very weak IPC when you shift them down to tasks that don't take full use of all their cores (example gaming) which translates to poor performance and older generation Phenom II's (deneb, Zosma, Thuban) beats the FX's in this area which is quite sad. Not to mention, you have to OC a FX chip more just to catch up and surpass the single threaded performance of a phenom II OC'd at 4GHz and the FX's have higher power consumption.

From what I see on this thread, you want to use your system for gaming, I think you should go for the 2500 especially if you are wanting to use multiple GPUs or wait till Ivy drops. There are plenty of sites with benchmarks that you can look at. You will see much better minimum FPS which is the only thing that really matters personally to me when looking at performance.
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