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My comment was in reference to Stub's comment about not seeing RAID 0 in use. I can clearly relate,why RAID 0 a ssd array?.

huh? i dont get this.. thinking.gif

@Others I may not like RAID 0 but i do know it has its uses such as combining drives into one volume and performance increase but no redunacy is my concern.. thats why i like RAID 10, you get the performence of RAID 0 and the redunadacy of RAID 1 but unfotunatly this you need atleast 4 drives smile.gif
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The reason I say no RAID 0 with ssd's is that RAID 0 is basicaly a performance enhancing configuration (with as you say no redundancy).If you are running ssd's you have all the performance you need without a RAID configuration. I play it KISS whenever I can.
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The reason I say no RAID 0 with ssd's is that RAID 0 is basicaly a performance enhancing configuration (with as you say no redundancy).If you are running ssd's you have all the performance you need without a RAID configuration. I play it KISS whenever I can.

yep i understand where your comming from thumb.gif my actual comment was i was happy that the OP didnt mention RAID 0 in my first post.. just abit of mix up smile.gif
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post #24 of 40
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The reason I say no RAID 0 with ssd's is that RAID 0 is basicaly a performance enhancing configuration (with as you say no redundancy).If you are running ssd's you have all the performance you need without a RAID configuration. I play it KISS whenever I can.

Nope, the faster the better, there is no such this as FAST ENOUGH. don't tell me that raid 0 doesn't have any benefit when using ssds, because thats just wrong. This is just a matter of preference, if you want to do it or not.

Some people talks about reliability issue, but as long as your machine is not a server, there should be no problem. just remember to make a backup frequently, just in case.
post #25 of 40
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Nope, the faster the better, there is no such this as FAST ENOUGH. don't tell me that raid 0 doesn't have any benefit when using ssds, because thats just wrong. This is just a matter of preference, if you want to do it or not.
Some people talks about reliability issue, but as long as your machine is not a server, there should be no problem. just remember to make a backup frequently, just in case.

thats it, you said backup frequently.. do that in bold and RAID 0 is fine for thoose who want it fast thumb.gif
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When i said back up, i didn't say it will fail, its just a safety measure.
HDD or SSD, you need to make a backup when raiding.
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When i said back up, i didn't say it will fail, its just a safety measure.
HDD or SSD, you need to make a backup when raiding.

i know i work as a consultant risk managment for data storage/centers and traing for security as well thumb.gif
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yeah but at least you have less worries of a mechanical failure happening or worrying about the TDLR or w/e its called.

But yeah I thought running raid with SSD stops the use of TRIM commands being sent to the controllers, unless its the newer ones which I think doesnt matter due to the garbage collection of the controller. Sean would know more then me since I have read all his guides about SSD stuff that are QUITE informative.

But ah on what drive it really dont matter what size the drive is really as long as it holds your os, and make sure to connect the drive to a non 3rd party controller as sean says since it does cause issues but if you are using the 3rd party ones for the storage drives it should be good enough.
 
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post #29 of 40
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When i said back up, i didn't say it will fail, its just a safety measure.
HDD or SSD, you need to make a backup when raiding.

i know i work as a consultant risk managment for data storage/centers and traing for security as well thumb.gif

I'm not trying to offend anyone or something like that, i just don't agree when someone says that raiding ssd doesn't have any benefits,
but the truth is that they just don't want more speed because a single ssd's speed is just good enough for them.

Maybe it's good enough for them, but for some people, there is no such thing as good enough, and raiding ssds has benefits and will satisfy their need for speed

I also want to add that hdd has a higher failure rate than ssd
Edited by ghostrider85 - 3/8/12 at 11:19pm
post #30 of 40
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yeah but at least you have less worries of a mechanical failure happening or worrying about the TDLR or w/e its called.

But yeah I thought running raid with SSD stops the use of TRIM commands being sent to the controllers, unless its the newer ones which I think doesnt matter due to the garbage collection of the controller. Sean would know more then me since I have read all his guides about SSD stuff that are QUITE informative.

But ah on what drive it really dont matter what size the drive is really as long as it holds your os, and make sure to connect the drive to a non 3rd party controller as sean says since it does cause issues but if you are using the 3rd party ones for the storage drives it should be good enough.

if your drive is dying, it will gonna die whether its just a single one or you have two. that's why theres this thing called backup.
and in the long run, after your warranty expires, if one of your 2x 250gb ssd dies, at least you only have to buy another 250gb, not a full 500gb ssd.

trim is not an issue if your ssd has BGC. plus if you notice that its slowing down, you just need to clone your drive, secure erase it, then restore it, problem solved.
intel will going to release a driver that supports trim on raid soon
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