Originally Posted by SniperTeamTango
I've seen the slides dude. I know IB is an improvement. ALL I'm saying is there was 0 evidence for people to believe BD would be as horrid as it was until some people took the leap and bought it. I'm honestly sick and tired of everyone worshiping at intel's feet. AMD made a mistake and is slowly rectifying it. If intel did it all of you would shrug it off and STILL pay way too much for it. Also, howcome we suddenly believe a ton of benchmark slides here, but with the 7970/680 everyone was all "fake slides fake slides fake slides!" Isn't this an interesting double/triple/quadruple standard.
There was tons of evidence to believe BD wouldn't turn out as JF_AMD was trying to sell us.
1) Complete lack of any hard information towards release. Yes, AMD said they weren't going to leak any information and that was true for Phenom and Athlon 64 as well...yet on Athlon they spilled the beans WAY earlier. Why? They had results. They wanted to show them off. By assuming history repeats, keeping their mouths shut on Bulldozer was a bad omen.
2) Extremely odd hype machine during the last months leading up to release. They focused almost entirely on how many GHz a single BD core could be OC'd to and yet didn't run a single benchmark or test on the machines while they had them clearly up and running at a very refined level (they OC'd to 8.4GHz after all).
3) Leaked reviews from multiple sources showing benchmarks that were 100% true. These websites exist for a reason, and it's not to grab page hits from made up stories...that's a quick way to lose viewership. All the websites I saw leaks on had sterling reputations when it comes to being accurate about previous chips from various companies.
The writing was on the wall on this one, and a long time before the release date.