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A tiny 10-20% performance increase isnt going to save Vishera. Look at these AMD fanbois getting excited for piledriver!! LOL
Piledriver needs a 200% increase if it is ever going to compete with IB which would be relased many moths before vishera!


Do you even realize that 200% increase is almost twice as fast as SB-E @ 5GHz? rolleyes.gif
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@jinny1

I don't think calling people AMD fanboys who buy AMD products is right nor calling any intel guys Intel Fanbois. There are many people who are hard on cash or on a budget where we get what we paid for.

Yes there are many who just want an AMD but then again one should restrain from calling fanboy stuff.

Do not take this post personally as this is not targeted to anyone specific , I wrote it down because I have seen this fanboy stuff countless times and it gets no where.
Edited by ironmaiden - 4/7/12 at 4:39am
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I think if AMD release Vishera with quad channel memory, it will probably spank ivy bridge at multi-threaded applications.

This achitecture wont ever surpass any of Intel's latest offerings in single threaded apps though. Simply because they went for two smaller cores in one module, rather than one big core, those smaller integer cores might improve over time but wont catch up to Intel.

Only when multi-threaded applications (more than 4 threads) become mainstream will this architecture trump Intel. Until then it will just be price competitive.

Modern processors hardly bottleneck in mainstream applications anyway, maybe if you playing 3x 1080P games its makes some difference, but that market is pretty small.
Edited by Alchemist07 - 4/7/12 at 5:35am
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i think its safe to say intel won the battle for the desktop cpu. amd waved its flag.




(i own amd gpu and cpu btw and would prefer a competitor rather than not)
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I think if AMD release Vishera with quad channel memory, it will probably spank ivy bridge at multi-threaded applications.

Quad channel is useless.
 
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Quad channel is useless.

That depends on application. Its quite useful for some stuff that actually makes use of that bandwidth assuming CPU itself is powerful enough for that type of applications ofc to be able to saturate the quad channel bandwidth.

If you only play games then ofc you do not see difference in real world between dual, triple or quad channel.
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Quad channel is useless.

depends on the app, but the problem is that AMD's memory controller sucks compared to Intel, if they introduce quad channel, I would like to think they will also sort out their memory problems at the same time.
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That depends on application. Its quite useful for some stuff that actually makes use of that bandwidth assuming CPU itself is powerful enough for that type of applications ofc to be able to saturate the quad channel bandwidth.
If you only play games then ofc you do not see difference in real world between dual, triple or quad channel.

well of course you can find uses for any feature, but what I was getting at was that quad channel has very, very, VERY niche uses. I actually can't think of a single real world app that would benefit greatly from that. And I'm running X79... tongue.gif
 
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well of course you can find uses for any feature, but what I was getting at was that quad channel has very, very, VERY niche uses. I actually can't think of a single real world app that would benefit greatly from that. And I'm running X79... tongue.gif

For me the main added benefit would be just higher amount of cheap memory. With current prices you can get 64 Gb for approx 400 euros. Sure you can get more RAM on server boards, but ECC + registered adds a quite significant premium.

Sure, most people dont use that amount but those who do benefit from quad channel. Then again I would be as happy with dual channel with 4 sticks per channel.
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Thing is, by 2015 we should see DDR4 into the mainstream market. DDR4 opt for point to point connection. 1 stick = 1 channel. Hopefully we will see 4 slots in the mainstream MB.
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