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I find myself invariably drawn to the 3770k. I may have to finally sell this case and buy my first Intel. A guy was wanting to buy it off me for $300 last year, I may just finally be able to bring myself to let go of it....it's just so beautiful though. sad-smiley-002.gif

There comes a time in every boy's life...

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post #12 of 38
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If these benches are true, then I don't see a good enough reason, besides the PCIe 3.0, for users with a 2500k/2600k to upgrade to this cpu.

the HUGE mistake you're making is assuming a 2600K user like me would run the 3770K at only 4.7GHz. 4.7GHz is the highest I can go @ 1.35V on my particular 2600K, but if I could take a 3770K to 5.3-5.5GHz then it very well may be worth the upgrade

that being said, I may be in a position where I might benefit from more cores and thus a 3930K might end up being the better route even if it is a lot more expensive (especially considering a 3770K would just be a drop-in)

although I'm also running into the rare situation where I can could use more than 4 cores but also need as high an IPC and clock rate as I can get, such as when I'm live-streaming a game that is poorly CPU optimized, particularly for multiple threads (Skyrim's cities, or SC2 in 4+ player games with lots of units, or Tribes Ascend comes to mind). Really what I want is IB-E, but with Intel's new release strategy its going to be a painful wait.
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post #13 of 38
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I find myself invariably drawn to the 3770k. I may have to finally sell this case and buy my first Intel. A guy was wanting to buy it off me for $300 last year, I may just finally be able to bring myself to let go of it....it's just so beautiful though. sad-smiley-002.gif

Your CPU cooler is beautiful! I love that thing. It is the only good looking prolimatech product, but man is it pretty!
 
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the HUGE mistake you're making is assuming a 2600K user like me would run the 3770K at only 4.7GHz. 4.7GHz is the highest I can go @ 1.35V on my particular 2600K, but if I could take a 3770K to 5.3-5.5GHz then it very well may be worth the upgrade

The 3770K in question required 1.34v for a stable 4.7GHz. And I think it's safe to assume that it will not be safe to run 1.52v through these chips.
 
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post #15 of 38

 

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Originally Posted by bojinglebells View Post


the HUGE mistake you're making is assuming a 2600K user like me would run the 3770K at only 4.7GHz. 4.7GHz is the highest I can go @ 1.35V on my particular 2600K, but if I could take a 3770K to 5.3-5.5GHz then it very well may be worth the upgrade
that being said, I may be in a position where I might benefit from more cores and thus a 3930K might end up being the better route even if it is a lot more expensive (especially considering a 3770K would just be a drop-in)
although I'm also running into the rare situation where I can could use more than 4 cores but also need as high an IPC and clock rate as I can get, such as when I'm live-streaming a game that is poorly CPU optimized, particularly for multiple threads (Skyrim's cities, or SC2 in 4+ player games with lots of units, or Tribes Ascend comes to mind). Really what I want is IB-E, but with Intel's new release strategy its going to be a painful wait.


I'm pretty sure IB-E CPU are 2011 socket. It will work on current X79 board if you are willing to drop in 3930k ($600) or 3820 (~$300) + $300 X79 board.

 

 
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post #16 of 38
Considering AMD is so behind this is not surprising. Unless these CPU OC at least 5.2Ghz its not worth it to upgrade from SB but a good CPU if you dont have SB. What worries me is the Voltage. 1.34v for 4.7Ghz but it could have a lower Limit then SB so it might max out @ Same Ghz.
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post #17 of 38
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Correction: It's a tick+
No major improvement beside efficiency.
Look at that 1.2v @ 4.7GHz ?! Watercooling will be pointless soon frown.gif

No one around here cares about the i-video performance.

Anyway I plan on going with Sandy E, performance isn't enough to warrant the lack of features on Z77 compared to X79.

People around here have already gotten the 3820 to 5ghz using the base clock and from what I've seen 4.7~4.8 is possible with the same ~1.35v core. At least if I go socket 2011 I will have upgrade options.
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Considering AMD is so behind this is not surprising. Unless these CPU OC at least 5.2Ghz its not worth it to upgrade from SB but a good CPU if you dont have SB. What worries me is the Voltage. 1.34v for 4.7Ghz but it could have a lower Limit then SB so it might max out @ Same Ghz.

This has nothing to do with pressure from AMD. If anything, IVB is proof of pressure from AMD, considering the large improvment to the GPU. Normally a tick is a slightly tweaked die shrink of the previous tock... this is quite a bit more, and there's no reason to be complaining here.
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Correction: It's a tick+
No major improvement beside efficiency.
Look at that 1.2v @ 4.7GHz ?! Watercooling will be pointless soon frown.gif

As someone else said, that wasn't the stable Vcore.

But think about it. Sure with watercooling, overclocking to that level will be easier, hell we might not even need it. But why not just overclock even further? I thought that was the point, to go as far as your WC loop will let you? It just means that with these new chips we can go further, in terms of clock speed.
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This has nothing to do with pressure from AMD. If anything, IVB is proof of pressure from AMD, considering the large improvment to the GPU. Normally a tick is a slightly tweaked die shrink of the previous tock... this is quite a bit more, and there's no reason to be complaining here.

In the Wrong Direction. Most of us here want CPU power not iGP power. My 2500K bottleneck my HD 6990 @ 4.8Ghz in BF3 in certain condition. Its still over 60fps but the GPU usage drops. The CPU is ~ 85% usage in all 4 Cores. What would ahppen with 2 x HD 7970 or Nvidias high end?
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