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It's a tick... you should be grateful there's any CPU improvements at all.
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In the Wrong Direction. Most of us here want CPU power not iGP power. My 2500K bottleneck my HD 6990 @ 4.8Ghz in BF3 in certain condition. Its still over 60fps but the GPU usage drops. The CPU is ~ 85% usage in all 4 Cores. What would ahppen with 2 x HD 7970 or Nvidias high end?

yes most of OCN want more cpu power but for OEMs and the common user the story isn't the same.
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I just hope they scale better with cold than SB did.
    
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It's a tick... you should be grateful there's any CPU improvements at all.

Q9550 was a nice Tick compare to Q6600. Most Q6600 at the time with 1.325v VID could not do more then 3.4Ghz. Q9550 did 4.0Ghz+ and was noticeably faster clock per clock.
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post #25 of 38
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Sorry guys. I guess I made a pretty biased statement tongue.gif

I'll just expand in order to express my viewpoint on the subject so you guys can hopefully understand why I typed that.

Someone has a 2500k/2600k and Ivy is released. That person is basically paying $200-$300 more just for a ~5% increase in performance, if that, and if they buy a Z77 board, then the price is even higher. Although Intel's original intent with Ivy was to improve the graphics on the cpu, the majority of people who purchase the K variants of the chip will have no use for the gpu since they will be running a dedicated graphics card. Seeing as current PCIe 3.0 cards aren't really bottlenecked by PCIe 2.0 as shown here, it really isn't needed right now, but probably within the next year or two the new graphics cards will most likely be bottlenecked by 2.0. When that time comes though, Haswell, as well (see what i did thar... biggrin.gif ) as Piledriver, will be out, and PCIe 3.0 will probably be the standard then. The same applies to the 4096x2160 native resolution that it supports.

The main advantage Ivy has over SB for oc'ers is that it can perform pretty much the same as SB at a lower TDP and vcore, but that's a given since it's a die shrink of the same architecture. I understand that this is an ES, but the chip will be released next month, so there can't be much left to tweak with the architecture.

This card will probably overclock better than SB, but the money you paid for the few hundred megahertz could have been spent in another area, or be saved for next gen products. I think that people who have systems similar to mine will benefit upgrading to Ivy, or even SB/SB-E, than someone who currently has BD/SB. I understand that people have their own reasons for buying the stuff they want, and I respect that, but for people like me who prefers to wait until there are products out that are a viable replacement over their own, I don't see a reason to upgrade yet.
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I am looking to upgrade to the IB from the SB, for the hope of getting 5.3ghz, and having decent temps on my H100. Not to mention folding 24/7 on a chip that requires less power means great savings over the next 2 years that I have it before upgrading my folding rig again.

The real question is if it is released in April, how long does it take to establish what the "safe " vcore is and what would be the line that folders and Oc'ers like myself can push it too..

Where SB is 1.5vcore.. IB will be what 1.4v?

Right now a good temp is 75c after that.. it runs toasty.. Would IB be even less?
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I am looking to upgrade to the IB from the SB, for the hope of getting 5.3ghz, and having decent temps on my H100. Not to mention folding 24/7 on a chip that requires less power means great savings over the next 2 years that I have it before upgrading my folding rig again.
The real question is if it is released in April, how long does it take to establish what the "safe " vcore is and what would be the line that folders and Oc'ers like myself can push it too..
Where SB is 1.5vcore.. IB will be what 1.4v?
Right now a good temp is 75c after that.. it runs toasty.. Would IB be even less?

If you wait until IVY is out 3770K you will probably get $200 for your CPU. Then you will have to spend another $100+ to upgrade. It should run cooler.
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post #29 of 38
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I think this quote is kinda important for many people:
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CPU water cooled with Corsair H100, 1.34v linpack and prime stable @ 4.7GHz
Anyways, I'm glad I went with SB-E smile.gif


My 2700K @ 4.6 GHz 1.325V passed 7 hours of Prime 95 Large FFT, which produces the most power consumption of the three tests in my experience. That's also with 16 GB of RAM, too. I'm sure I can lower the voltage a bit, also. I didn't want to wait for IVB anymore.
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I guess I am sticking with sandy bridge...
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