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2nd gen Sandy bridge chips, sounds reasonable.
The price on that thing is indeed great!!!
Waiting for the Asus p8z77-i tongue.gif
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can't wait to buy maximus v gene and replace my maximus iv gene!
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So just to make sure... this isn't strictly a Gigabyte thing... the other boards will have it, correct?
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Maybe I am missing something, but there is nothing about MVP in the product description. I'm sure Sin can clarify, but is it just a matter of Tigerdirect's description not including the correct wording? The description also refers to supporting Intel's 2nd generation chips... Ivy is 3rd generation??? Am I just reading it wrong?

yes ,this board will support;
Lucid MVP,SB and IB (second and third gen.=both 1155 socket)
    
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I would like to try this ... multi gpu/screen set up ..
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So just to make sure... this isn't strictly a Gigabyte thing... the other boards will have it, correct?

all high end boards will have it
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I just wanted to jump in here and address the fps higher than display refresh rate debate.
There is absolutely a benefit to FPS higher than 60, and here's why:
Suppose you are getting 60 fps with a 60 fps monitor. Furthermore, in this ideal world, suppose that your graphics card is done with a frame exactly at the right time for it to be displayed. As soon as it is done with one frame, it starts another. This means that the frame displayed uses position data collected right after the last frame finished, in essence, the image displayed in any one frame is (1000/60) = 16.7ms old. Assuming your monitor has a decent response time, this is a waste, even though you're getting frames every 1/60th of a second like clockwork, there is a fair amount of latency introduced.
Now assume the same situation as above, still with a 60 hz monitor, but assume your gpu is rendering at 120 fps. All of a sudden frames update twice in between monitor refreshes. In essence, every other frame is finished and never displayed in the middle of a refresh cycle. This means that every frame displayed is now only roughly 8.5ms old, a much lower latency that you will absolutely notice, even though your monitor is still only displaying 60fps. The higher fps produced by your gpu might not make movement more fluid, but it will make the game feel more responsive. As a side note, this is why fps players insist on getting fps in the hundreds, it has nothing to do about fluidity of movement (well that's important, but you don't need 200 fps for it), it's about having virtually no response lag.
With the above hopefully explaining why fps above 60 matters, it should be obvious how this new lucid tech works. It's not a gimmick, it simply attempts to detect when, in a situation liek case 2 above, a frame that is being rendered won't finish in time to be displayed. When it does detect that, it throws the frame out and starts working on a new one. This means that when your monitor finally refreshes, the frame being displayed is more up to date than it would otherwise be, hence lower latency on displayed frames. The higher fps is just a side effect, it's not really the point. The point is reducing frame latency and thus improving response time.
Anyway, hope this helped clear stuff up.

Great explanation. I think Vsync being tripple-buffered introduce a latency that PRO FPS gamers want to avoid. Disabling vsync removes that lag.

However, as you said, this has nothing to do with fluidity or smoothness. People will still get 60 images no matter what. All they'll get is tearing.

Now I wonder if the new Nvidia Adaptive Vsync gets rid of the tripple-buffering. There is no need since vsync is disabled below 60fps. Tripple buffering prevents the framerate from dropping to 30 and 15.
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Nvidia are already looking at how to break this with new driver updates.
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Nvidia are already looking at how to break this with new driver updates.

They did the same thing. Console devs have been using this for a while. The technology is coming to PC.

Scroll to the adaptive vsync paragraph.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-nvidia-gtx-680-review
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