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Poll Results: Is Ubuntu junk?

 
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post #111 of 294
3/14/12 at 9:34am
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With regard to people slating Kubuntu - would you slate Mint KDE in the same way?
If it is as bad as Kubuntu, then yes. However I've never tried it so can't comment.
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post #112 of 294
3/14/12 at 9:43am
Thats fine if Ubuntu is considered a Harley With training wheels.. I could care less about how cool I am using an OS ( lol wut?) but as long as it is easy to use and I can get things done, that's all that matters to me smile.gif I've tried all kinds of distros, but Ubuntu is my first and my favorite biggrin.gif For learning and testing purposes, I use Virtualbox, but for regular use, Ubuntu all the way
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post #113 of 294
3/14/12 at 9:53am
Ubuntu was pretty good until Unity ruined it. Mint has a much better GUI now.
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3/14/12 at 9:59am
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Maybe it's because I've been working for 8 hours already today, but why does it seem like most people switch/choose distro's based on GUI. Just seems like no one knows you can change them.

Time to go home and get a power nap sleepysmileyanim.gif
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post #115 of 294
3/14/12 at 10:02am
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Maybe it's because I've been working for 8 hours already today, but why does it seem like most people switch/choose distro's based on GUI. Just seems like no one knows you can change them.
Time to go home and get a power nap sleepysmileyanim.gif

I actually like Unity biggrin.gif
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post #116 of 294
3/14/12 at 10:29am
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I actually like Unity biggrin.gif

Agreed. Can't decide between Unity and Gnome3, so I just switch between them.
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3/14/12 at 1:18pm
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Maybe it's because I've been working for 8 hours already today, but why does it seem like most people switch/choose distro's based on GUI. Just seems like no one knows you can change them.
Time to go home and get a power nap sleepysmileyanim.gif

Well for me the reason I went to Slackware for 2 months (then got tired of putting that much "effort" in an OS) was because I didn't know that when I started (it's not something people from the Windows and OSX world are used to) and I wanted to try KDE "done right" before giving up on Linux (Gnome and I will never get along). Plus...crazy as it sounds...grabbing another DE in buntu and Fedora (from my experience but I'm sure it isn't the same for others) always ended up with it missing some package or something conflicting so things would run a little weird(IE XFCE icons in dolphin; LXDE icons in other places; all while I was in KDE). But the other reason is simply because it's easier than worrying about missing something. And finally many distro just "default" to one DE and so people think there's some important reason that the maintainers did that.
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post #118 of 294
3/14/12 at 1:24pm
I think this article really adress's the issue in this thread. you shouldn't have to "learn linux" it should largely be self evident. Its one of those things MacOSX really leads at. There are to many things that should be easy, that are intolerably difficult.Most of the arguments seem to be about what kind of intolerability it should be, not in reducing the complexity as the user engages the system.

http://caffeine.shugendo.org/2010/10/24/whats-kept-linux-from-being-a-success-on-the-desktop/
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post #119 of 294
3/14/12 at 2:10pm
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I think this article really adress's the issue in this thread. you shouldn't have to "learn linux" it should largely be self evident. Its one of those things MacOSX really leads at. There are to many things that should be easy, that are intolerably difficult.Most of the arguments seem to be about what kind of intolerability it should be, not in reducing the complexity as the user engages the system.
http://caffeine.shugendo.org/2010/10/24/whats-kept-linux-from-being-a-success-on-the-desktop/

I think it's quite obvious why Linux isn't a success on the desktop:
  1. It's fragmented (I could write a whole essay on this point alone)
  2. Lack of financial and corporate backing (Canonical have by far the deepest pockets in desktop Linux world and even their budget is nothing compared to Microsoft and Apples). Without the backing, it's hard to keep the OEMs on side and hard to keep users aware of the product. Without both points, you're stuck in catch 22 as either the OEMs drop out from lack of consumer interest, or the consumers drop out because lack of OEMs releasing Linux desktops.
  3. And finally (and in my opinion), the leading distros (in terms of public awareness) lack attention to detail or are just generally awful.

I don't think Linux is as far from being consumer ready as you often make out though. In fact I think Linux is desktop ready - it just needs the right distro with the right financial backing. I just don't think Ubuntu is that "right distro" and I don't think Mark Shuttleworth (Canonical's head honcho) is the right backer either.

However Google have proven (with Android), that in the right hands, Linux can be every bit as consumer ready as it's rivals. Just as Apple have proven that Unix doesn't need to be managed by elitist, beard strokers. It's just a pity that he closest thing Google have done to a desktop Linux is their pointless ChromeOS and it's a pity that Apple is evil.
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post #120 of 294
3/14/12 at 2:26pm
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I think it's quite obvious why Linux isn't a success on the desktop:
  1. It's fragmented (I could write a whole essay on this point alone)
  2. Lack of financial and corporate backing (Canonical have by far the deepest pockets in desktop Linux world and even their budget is nothing compared to Microsoft and Apples). Without the backing, it's hard to keep the OEMs on side and hard to keep users aware of the product. Without both points, you're stuck in catch 22 as either the OEMs drop out from lack of consumer interest, or the consumers drop out because lack of OEMs releasing Linux desktops.

Deeper than Red Hat? Or don't you count them as they're more enterprise...y?
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