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I think it's quite obvious why Linux isn't a success on the desktop:
  1. It's fragmented (I could write a whole essay on this point alone)
  2. Lack of financial and corporate backing (Canonical have by far the deepest pockets in desktop Linux world and even their budget is nothing compared to Microsoft and Apples). Without the backing, it's hard to keep the OEMs on side and hard to keep users aware of the product. Without both points, you're stuck in catch 22 as either the OEMs drop out from lack of consumer interest, or the consumers drop out because lack of OEMs releasing Linux desktops.
  3. And finally (and in my opinion), the leading distros (in terms of public awareness) lack attention to detail or are just generally awful.
I don't think Linux is as far from being consumer ready as you often make out though. In fact I think Linux is desktop ready - it just needs the right distro with the right financial backing. I just don't think Ubuntu is that "right distro" and I don't think Mark Shuttleworth (Canonical's head honcho) is the right backer either.
However Google have proven (with Android), that in the right hands, Linux can be every bit as consumer ready as it's rivals. Just as Apple have proven that Unix doesn't need to be managed by elitist, beard strokers. It's just a pity that he closest thing Google have done to a desktop Linux is their pointless ChromeOS and it's a pity that Apple is evil.

add in the fact that some stuff just do not work "out of the box", nor with any reasonable sort of effort.... I like Linux and all, and I try to use it, but some things just don't work without a trip to the ol' command line, and some people just don't have the want/skill to do that. I for one, find myself installing it onto my last 3 computers, and then just not using it. The 'windows is crap' is no longer true in most cases, and someone with reasonable hardware, who doesn't program, and doesn't just hate windows, it's hard to find a reason to choose Ubuntu 11.10 at the grub menu (especially for a gamer).
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Deeper than Red Hat? Or don't you count them as they're more enterprise...y?
Well Redhat definitely are not desktop wink.gif
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add in the fact that some stuff just do not work "out of the box", nor with any reasonable sort of effort....
Like what?
I usually run into that problem with Windows rather than Linux. But I rarely use Windows these days so I find it as foreign to me as Linux is to others.
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I like Linux and all, and I try to use it, but some things just don't work without a trip to the ol' command line, and some people just don't have the want/skill to do that. I for one, find myself installing it onto my last 3 computers, and then just not using it.
The CLI thing in Linux is simply because it's quicker to implement (just copy/paste code), easier to explain on websites (not least because of the aforementioned reason) and the CLI in Linux is actually very good. You can rectify nearly everything in Linux without touching the CLI, but usually there's no point.

However with Windows, the CLI is complete garbage so you're stuck with screenshot-based walkthroughs (which can be a nightmare if you're not running the same version of Windows as shown in the guide)
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The 'windows is crap' is no longer true in most cases, and someone with reasonable hardware, who doesn't program, and doesn't just hate windows, it's hard to find a reason to choose Ubuntu 11.10 at the grub menu (especially for a gamer).
Win7 is actually a pretty solid release. I still don't like it much personally but kudos to Microsoft because they did do a good job with 7. However the last (and in my opinion, only) great OS MS have released was Win2000. It was clean and concise, rock solid and fully functional.

Agreed about GRUB though - even I think that's complete garbage.
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add in the fact that some stuff just do not work "out of the box", nor with any reasonable sort of effort.... I like Linux and all, and I try to use it, but some things just don't work without a trip to the ol' command line, and some people just don't have the want/skill to do that. I for one, find myself installing it onto my last 3 computers, and then just not using it. The 'windows is crap' is no longer true in most cases, and someone with reasonable hardware, who doesn't program, and doesn't just hate windows, it's hard to find a reason to choose Ubuntu 11.10 at the grub menu (especially for a gamer).

Except for your average user (What most people would be meaning for the desktop market) only needs an email client, a browser and maybe a chat client. Seriously, throw KDE, Firefox/Chrome, Thunderbird and emesene into a Linux distro and have a Ubuntu style updater and 90% of users would love it once they got used to the (Fairly small, for what they'd do) differences to Windows.
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Like what?

well, since the 11.04 beta, they have known issues with certain laptop backlights, mostly acer, but others too. I have an acer 5734z, and the backlight stays off. You have to edit grub, and run a startup command to get the backlight on - even to install. then, you need a script with admin privileges to turn it back on in case of logoff / sleep. I know if a normal desktop user, who was acquainted with windows ran into this issue, they would not pursue it to great lengths, and would just stick with windows. Even knowing the workaround to this problem, there was a few months I reverted back to 10.10.

I also have a creative titanium x-fi 7.1 pci-e sound card that pops/cracks at login screen, starts at volume maxed, refuses to recognize my center/sub channel, and half the time thinks my back speakers are my front (and the only ones connected), and the mic won't work. Every work around, including new 'drivers' has got me on 5.1 setup, but still no center/sub/mic, so I am at the same place I started, but wih 4.0 instead of 6.0 speakers. All this from a card that is supposedly 'out the box' since 11.04.

That's just noticable hardware issues I have personally had. Add in plymouth issues, Nvidia driver issues (from the set Ubuntu offers to me), all the above working flawlessly in Win7.... add on a performance hit for gaming in wine, no 3-d vision, no support for many products who don't give it themselves (my mouse (my razer naga epic shows up as 3 mice, and can't change none of them, so it's super-speedy) and keyboard (corsair k90 the -lock keys are fluckery, num- stays on and caps- stays off) and then you have me who finds it harder and harder everyday to find a reason to choose Linux at boot time.

I still try to use Linux, but it's aggravating ALL the time.
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Except for your average user (What most people would be meaning for the desktop market) only needs an email client, a browser and maybe a chat client. Seriously, throw KDE, Firefox/Chrome, Thunderbird and emesene into a Linux distro and have a Ubuntu style updater and 90% of users would love it once they got used to the (Fairly small, for what they'd do) differences to Windows.

and that average user would have no idea how to fix something minor that went wrong, and would be back on windows as soon as they had a chance. as soon as they were told to "output the results from...." "and then we'll go from there" they would run the other way. I like Linux, and how much they try to give support and make stuff easier for noobs to get into, but it is NOT suitable in it's current state yet for inexperienced users, coming off of barely keeping windows running, to use as a primary OS.
Edited by -SE7EN- - 3/14/12 at 4:40pm
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I recommend it to people who are new to using Linux. I'd never use Ubuntu as my main distro mainly because I dislike APT. I prefer YUM. It may be a superficial difference, but that's just my preference. CentOS and Fedora are my favorite to use. Gentoo is fun to mess with but CentOS and Fedora are practical enough for my needs. I tend to stick to CentOS these days because it still has good old trusty GNOME. Not these new "mac-esque" UIs.
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well, since the 11.04 beta, they have known issues with certain laptop backlights, mostly acer, but others too. I have an acer 5734z, and the backlight stays off. You have to edit grub, and run a startup command to get the backlight on - even to install. then, you need a script with admin privileges to turn it back on in case of logoff / sleep. I know if a normal desktop user, who was acquainted with windows ran into this issue, they would not pursue it to great lengths, and would just stick with windows. Even knowing the workaround to this problem, there was a few months I reverted back to 10.10.
I also have a creative titanium x-fi 7.1 pci-e sound card that pops/cracks at login screen, starts at volume maxed, refuses to recognize my center/sub channel, and half the time thinks my back speakers are my front (and the only ones connected), and the mic won't work. Every work around, including new 'drivers' has got me on 5.1 setup, but still no center/sub/mic, so I am at the same place I started, but wih 4.0 instead of 6.0 speakers. All this from a card that is supposedly 'out the box' since 11.04.
That's just noticable hardware issues I have personally had. Add in plymouth issues, Nvidia driver issues (from the set Ubuntu offers to me), all the above working flawlessly in Win7.... add on a performance hit for gaming in wine, no 3-d vision, no support for many products who don't give it themselves (my mouse (my razer naga epic shows up as 3 mice, and can't change none of them, so it's super-speedy) and keyboard (corsair k90 the -lock keys are fluckery, num- stays on and caps- stays off) and then you have me who finds it harder and harder everyday to find a reason to choose Linux at boot time.
I still try to use Linux, but it's aggravating ALL the time.
I see. Thanks for taking the time to post all that.
Have you ever considered trying another distro to see if that plays any better with your requirements?
As for your specific faults, one problem immediately pops up as easily fixed and that's the volume one.
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alsamixer
# ^ change the levels then press escape to exit
alsactl store
# ^ saves your config
(i know you wanted to avoid the CLI, but it's just easier for me to offer this up as I don't have ubuntu to take screen shots from)

As for the mic - I've never had an issue with mic's in Linux. So sorry to ask the stupid here, but have you unmuted? How were you testing it and in which program?

Finally, why are you including plymouth issues when plymouth is still very much alpha and not intended for product use just yet?

However, that aside, it's been interesting to read about your problems and I do agree with many of them (particularly the graphics card drivers issue and suspend / wake up)
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and that average user would have no idea how to fix something minor that went wrong, and would be back on windows as soon as they had a chance....
To be fair, the average user would have no idea how to fix something in Windows either.
Edited by Plan9 - 3/14/12 at 5:00pm
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I see. Thanks for taking the time to post all that.
Have you ever considered trying another distro to see if that plays any better with your requirements?
As for your specific faults, one problem immediately pops up as easily fixed and that's the volume one.
Code:
alsamixer
# ^ change the levels then press escape to exit
alsactl store
# ^ saves your config
(i know you wanted to avoid the CLI, but it's just easier for me to offer this up as I don't have ubuntu to take screen shots from)
As for the mic - I've never had an issue with mic's in Linux. So sorry to ask the stupid here, but have you unmuted? How were you testing it and in which program?
Finally, why are you including plymouth issues when plymouth is still very much alpha and not intended for product use just yet?
However, that aside, it's been interesting to read about your problems and I do agree with many of them (particularly the graphics card drivers issue and suspend / wake up)
To be fair, the average user would have no idea how to fix something in Windows either.

yeah, I checked the alsa levels, they were all maxed at +0db, as far as the mic goes, i used volume control. When i first installed ubuntu, it gave me the default of 2.0 sound and my mic would recognize sound in the gui when i would speak. after setting it to 7.1 sound, and trying either a mono/stereo mic, it doesn't register anymore. It also did the same on an 12.04 alpha i ran on live. I don't know if the mic actually even works well enough for use when it first registers in volume control, as the default 2.0 doesn't give sound thru my speakers (and when i switch it and get sound, the mic no longer shows noise is being received). Plymouth, well... I think that is the name of the splash screen at bootup/shutdown? I mentioned it because if you install a new shell -KDE, inparticular, it takes over your spash screen with a terrible looking one. using plymouth to change it has resulted in frustration after frustration, as the only one so far it will let me change it to is 'night bird' or something like that, and it is worse than the kubuntu one i tried to replace. the other ones seem to not work, including the default ubuntu one, and give me what looks like an old NES game that needs cleaned graphics.

to be fair, the average user would take a computer they were having trouble with to their local best buy geek squad, who likely can find the simple little problem that is plaguing them for a decent fee. these are not the type of techs you want around if you have a linux problem smile.gif

also, I have nothing against the command line, but it is easy to get lost in it, if you don't have a specific set of instructions.. trying to find something out for yourself is way more difficult than using a gui.

edit: also, I am looking into using a different distro, got Mint on torrent today, and am even thinking about checking out some bsd.
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to be fair, the average user would take a computer they were having trouble with to their local best buy geek squad

If I were to stoop that low, I wouldn't take it to geek squad. Bunch of idiots. I sat at Best Buy one day talking a friend that works there and watching some of them work... It was not pretty.

I'd feel more comfortable taking it up to the guy who runs a repair shop across from the Lowes here thumb.gif Also much cheaper wink.gifthumb.gif
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If I were to stoop that low, I wouldn't take it to geek squad. Bunch of idiots. I sat at Best Buy one day talking a friend that works there and watching some of them work... It was not pretty.
I'd feel more comfortable taking it up to the guy who runs a repair shop across from the Lowes here thumb.gif Also much cheaper wink.gifthumb.gif

yeah, I know. I went in there to look at parts and stuff, like cases and k/b mice (wanted to see it in person, instead of just pics online before i buy) and it was almost sad to watch the simple questions they were asked and stumbled with. I started to ask one geeksquad member about sound card compatibility with Linux, and he said either look it up online or maybe ask someone at Frye's. It's a horrid place, and alot of wrong information is handed out.. but there sure are alot of people who seem to use them as their go-to place for computer issues.
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yeah, I checked the alsa levels, they were all maxed at +0db, as far as the mic goes, i used volume control. When i first installed ubuntu, it gave me the default of 2.0 sound and my mic would recognize sound in the gui when i would speak. after setting it to 7.1 sound, and trying either a mono/stereo mic, it doesn't register anymore. It also did the same on an 12.04 alpha i ran on live. I don't know if the mic actually even works well enough for use when it first registers in volume control, as the default 2.0 doesn't give sound thru my speakers (and when i switch it and get sound, the mic no longer shows noise is being received). Plymouth, well... I think that is the name of the splash screen at bootup/shutdown? I mentioned it because if you install a new shell -KDE, inparticular, it takes over your spash screen with a terrible looking one. using plymouth to change it has resulted in frustration after frustration, as the only one so far it will let me change it to is 'night bird' or something like that, and it is worse than the kubuntu one i tried to replace. the other ones seem to not work, including the default ubuntu one, and give me what looks like an old NES game that needs cleaned graphics.
to be fair, the average user would take a computer they were having trouble with to their local best buy geek squad, who likely can find the simple little problem that is plaguing them for a decent fee. these are not the type of techs you want around if you have a linux problem smile.gif
also, I have nothing against the command line, but it is easy to get lost in it, if you don't have a specific set of instructions.. trying to find something out for yourself is way more difficult than using a gui.
edit: also, I am looking into using a different distro, got Mint on torrent today, and am even thinking about checking out some bsd.

ahh sorry you're right about plymouth. I'm thinking of wayland. its late here and clearly im half asleep so im going to bed...
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