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Well here's another vs thread by me, my brothers friend has left his pc at my house for ages and the processor is still good ( i think) its a Q6600 couldn't tell you batch but I know its 65nm and high cache but what will run faster?
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The Q8200 is a newer technology compared to the Q6600. It will run cooler and faster clock-for-clock but the problem is that the Q8200 has a relatively low multiplier, so don't think about overclocking it very high. I would stay with the Q8200.
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The Q6600 is slightly faster, but not by much. Being a 65nm chip it will output more heat and use more power, but I can see that your PSU and HSF are up to the job. OC the Q6600 to 3/3.5GHz and it'll be fine for pretty much every modern game.

Bare in mind that both chips are at their EOL, neither will last for too much longer.
 
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post #4 of 15
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Bare in mind that both chips are at their EOL, neither will last for too much longer.

Lol wat? I gave a pentium 3 to my neighbor and it still works. It's enough for emailing and watching youtube video (not 1080p, duh).
post #5 of 15
Q6600 always since your motherboard has P43 chipset and 1600mhz bus speed as max Q6600 with 3.5GHz It wont see that bottlenecked with 480GTX/7870/7850/HD6950/HD6970 with 1080p
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Q6600 all the way.

#1: Q8xxx series is the most stubborn to OC. You'd need a UD3 series Gigabyte mobo to get it anywhere near 3.6GHz, on any other board you'll be lucky to get 3.2
#2: G0 Q6600 is a no-brainer for 3.6Ghz at only 400FSB, they can take 1.5V VCore all day every day.
#3: Clock for clock the Q6600 is faster than the Q8xxx series, even with a lower FSB. I've run them head to head.

Trust me OP, I have built and benched so many 775 rigs I've lost count.
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The Q8200 is a newer technology compared to the Q6600. It will run cooler and faster clock-for-clock but the problem is that the Q8200 has a relatively low multiplier, so don't think about overclocking it very high. I would stay with the Q8200.

I completely disagree with this except for the part that it won't overclock very high.
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The Q8200 is a newer technology compared to the Q6600. It will run cooler and faster clock-for-clock but the problem is that the Q8200 has a relatively low multiplier, so don't think about overclocking it very high. I would stay with the Q8200.

I completely disagree with this except for the part that it won't overclock very high.

The Q8200 is a 45nm chip and therefore runs cooler as it uses less voltage. 45nm also does run faster clock for clock, it's wolfdale vs kentsfield. Wolfdale is newer, smaller, faster and uses less power and is therefore better.

Unless you have very good memory, the Q8200 won't clock as high as the Q6600. If it were me choosing between these, i'd spin around and use the one that I ended up facing. They both have their merits.
 
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post #9 of 15
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The Q8200 is a 45nm chip and therefore runs cooler as it uses less voltage. 45nm also does run faster clock for clock, it's wolfdale vs kentsfield. Wolfdale is newer, smaller, faster and uses less power and is therefore better.
Unless you have very good memory, the Q8200 won't clock as high as the Q6600. If it were me choosing between these, i'd spin around and use the one that I ended up facing. They both have their merits.

You're talking theoretically, but in realy life that's all wrong.

#1: I've built and run a Q8300 head to head with a Q6600, both at 3.6GHz with the same memory and vid card. The Q6600 was a bit faster across the board. Why? 45nm or not, the Q8xxx series has half the cache of a Q6600. And that's all there is to it.
#2: See if you can search and find any people clocking Q8xxx series much more than 3.4GHz. You won't. The only reason I got that Q8300 to 3.6 was because a buddy traded me his EP45 UD3L board for my Striker Extreme. Before that, that Q8300 wouldn't budge past 3.1 or so without having problems, on 4 different boards.
#3: Heat: Yes the Q8300 ran cool. The problem is, thermals don't matter if you don't have the right board to clock it on. I still run my Q6600 daily at 3.6 with an H5O. Check the link in my sig, at full load for hours it never hits 60C, and that's at 1.51V in BIOS. I'd say thermals are not a real problem if you have decent cooling.

It may be 45nm, but it simply is NOT better in any way because of it's severe limitations. Period.
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You're talking theoretically, but in realy life that's all wrong.
#1: I've built and run a Q8300 head to head with a Q6600, both at 3.6GHz with the same memory and vid card. The Q6600 was a bit faster across the board. Why? 45nm or not, the Q8xxx series has half the cache of a Q6600. And that's all there is to it.
#2: See if you can search and find any people clocking Q8xxx series much more than 3.4GHz. You won't. The only reason I got that Q8300 to 3.6 was because a buddy traded me his EP45 UD3L board for my Striker Extreme. Before that, that Q8300 wouldn't budge past 3.1 or so without having problems, on 4 different boards.
#3: Heat: Yes the Q8300 ran cool. The problem is, thermals don't matter if you don't have the right board to clock it on. I still run my Q6600 daily at 3.6 with an H5O. Check the link in my sig, at full load for hours it never hits 60C, and that's at 1.51V in BIOS. I'd say thermals are not a real problem if you have decent cooling.
It may be 45nm, but it simply is NOT better in any way because of it's severe limitations. Period.

Q8xxx are 2x E5xxx in one
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