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I'm planning on ordering an SSD soon (hopefully) and was wondering what size I should go for specifically? Lets say I do go through every optimization guide to bring down the size of w7 installation, how much space would I have on say, a Crucial M4 64gb? I plan on putting my essential apps only on the SSD: chrome, skype, word, sony vegas, itunes. I also plan on putting bf3 and LoL on it, bf3 being the game I switch out if i decide to play another. I'm also wondering what your guys current SSD setups are what it contains.
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I'm planning on ordering an SSD soon (hopefully) and was wondering what size I should go for specifically? Lets say I do go through every optimization guide to bring down the size of w7 installation, how much space would I have on say, a Crucial M4 64gb? I plan on putting my essential apps only on the SSD: chrome, skype, word, sony vegas, itunes. I also plan on putting bf3 and LoL on it, bf3 being the game I switch out if i decide to play another. I'm also wondering what your guys current SSD setups are what it contains.

Follow my guide and you will have ~48-52GB free on a 64GB M4. I know b/c I got that.

You will have plenty of room for all your programs. You should also have enough room for the 2 games as well.
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I have a 256GB SSD for my OS/Apps/Games. None of my music, video, docs, etc are on it. It's barely enough and I've had to sacrifice some games in order to get it to fit. I have maybe half my games installed. But, I have a lot of games. 64GB is probably the very smallest you would ever want to use for an OS and the reality is that the smaller the SSD, the sooner it will fail. I've been seeing SSD's at or even just below 1 dollar per GB on newegg on sale. The 256GB Crucial M4 was on sale recently for 279 which had me "THIS CLOSE" to buying a second one but I decided to wait for the $ to buy a 512 instead.

It sounds like you don't want to install a TON of games, but realize that new games can easily be 16GB. (Arkham City for one... Deus Ex for another... Grand Theft Auto 4 is as well I think.) Get a few of those on there and you'll be out of space real quick. And it's important not to cram them absolutely full or it becomes harder for the drive to remain healthy.

If there's any way you can go to a 128 or higher, I would highly recommend that. Oh, and be sure you avoid the SandForce controller at all costs.

Hope this helps!
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i havernt got into the SSD game yet, but do know alittle bit about it
for an optimised OS, your essiental apps and BF3 a crucial M4 64GB would be perfect,,
you can always image the drive and ad another 64GB in RAID 0 down the track if its filling up..
or just get a 128GB and be done with it even tho IMO 64GB is all you would need for what you said thumb.gif
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I have a 256GB SSD for my OS/Apps/Games. None of my music, video, docs, etc are on it. It's barely enough and I've had to sacrifice some games in order to get it to fit. I have maybe half my games installed. But, I have a lot of games. 64GB is probably the very smallest you would ever want to use for an OS and the reality is that the smaller the SSD, the sooner it will fail. I've been seeing SSD's at or even just below 1 dollar per GB on newegg on sale. The 256GB Crucial M4 was on sale recently for 279 which had me "THIS CLOSE" to buying a second one but I decided to wait for the $ to buy a 512 instead.
It sounds like you don't want to install a TON of games, but realize that new games can easily be 16GB. (Arkham City for one... Deus Ex for another... Grand Theft Auto 4 is as well I think.) Get a few of those on there and you'll be out of space real quick. And it's important not to cram them absolutely full or it becomes harder for the drive to remain healthy.
If there's any way you can go to a 128 or higher, I would highly recommend that. Oh, and be sure you avoid the SandForce controller at all costs.
Hope this helps!
I'm aiming towards the 128gb version of crucial m4 but it's always nice to save money.
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i havernt got into the SSD game yet, but do know alittle bit about it
for an optimised OS, your essiental apps and BF3 a crucial M4 64GB would be perfect,,
you can always image the drive and ad another 64GB in RAID 0 down the track if its filling up..
or just get a 128GB and be done with it even tho IMO 64GB is all you would need for what you said thumb.gif

Do you have any idea how much space is left in an fully optimized SSD? I also said I'd have LoL which is around 4 gigs or so.
edit: didn't see sean's comment.
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Follow my guide and you will have ~48-52GB free on a 64GB M4. I know b/c I got that.
You will have plenty of room for all your programs. You should also have enough room for the 2 games as well.

Oh god, I was expecting like 20gigs or so free. That sounds magnificent. I have no idea how RAID works but if I were to Raid two of the same drives of 64gb, that would mean the whole drive would total to 128gb and act as one drive and faster speeds?
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Oh god, I was expecting like 20gigs or so free. That sounds magnificent. I have no idea how RAID works but if I were to Raid two of the same drives of 64gb, that would mean the whole drive would total to 128gb and act as one drive and faster speeds?
Haha, yea. Normally page file and hibernation file take up the most room and you can shrink them or disable them and it adds a lot of room back for use.

Yes you would get 2x the size and 2x the sequential speeds. But overall you wouldn't notice much of a difference in RAID 0 with SSDs as you do with HDDs. Also, boot up time may be slightly longer due to the RAID controller initializing the array after the BIOS/UEFI post. I'd suggest a single larger drive at first over two smaller ones. Also, you essentially double the risk of losing your data if one drive fails. And you lose TRIM which optimizes garbage collection too. But, if you want go ahead. thumb.gif
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Haha, yea. Normally page file and hibernation file take up the most room and you can shrink them or disable them and it adds a lot of room back for use.
Yes you would get 2x the size and 2x the sequential speeds. But overall you wouldn't notice much of a difference in RAID 0 with SSDs as you do with HDDs. Also, boot up time may be slightly longer due to the RAID controller initializing the array after the BIOS/UEFI post. I'd suggest a single larger drive at first over two smaller ones. Also, you essentially double the risk of losing your data if one drive fails. And you lose TRIM which optimizes garbage collection too. But, if you want go ahead. thumb.gif

LISTEN to this guy! He's definitely right about the amount of space taken up after optimizing the installation. I followed his guide myself and found that he's done an excellent job of hitting all the important points. Sean's the man. smile.gif

And the point he makes about doubling the failure rate - that's no small issue! I really think it's much better to go with a single drive for the boot drive - it reduces failure points thusly increasing stability and reliability. That's a good thing, right? thumb.gif
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Oh god, I was expecting like 20gigs or so free. That sounds magnificent. I have no idea how RAID works but if I were to Raid two of the same drives of 64gb, that would mean the whole drive would total to 128gb and act as one drive and faster speeds?
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Haha, yea. Normally page file and hibernation file take up the most room and you can shrink them or disable them and it adds a lot of room back for use.
Yes you would get 2x the size and 2x the sequential speeds. But overall you wouldn't notice much of a difference in RAID 0 with SSDs as you do with HDDs. Also, boot up time may be slightly longer due to the RAID controller initializing the array after the BIOS/UEFI post. I'd suggest a single larger drive at first over two smaller ones. Also, you essentially double the risk of losing your data if one drive fails. And you lose TRIM which optimizes garbage collection too. But, if you want go ahead. thumb.gif

this ^^^ as usaual biggrin.gif
this one thing to note actual usable space of RAID 0 of two 64GB drives will be about 119GB just FYI not that it matters much xD
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128GB seems to be the safest bet.
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