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Uhhh.... you can tell from that paragraph that who ever wrote this is not in the industry.... or this article was aimed at people complete unaware of the industry.

They included the word "iPad" in the title. What do you think?
    
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There's an 64-bit ARMs.... and most of the additional instruction sets are not needed in servers.

I meant in terms of say, Samsung making x86 chips. They probably could get everything to make an x86 chip, but the newer instruction sets are still licensed. And I would have thought that server workloads would have benefited quite a lot from certain extensions? Stuff like XOP and FMA.
    
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intel is behind, but they have one HUGE advantage, and its that they have industry leading fabrication plants. While Intel may behind in designing ultra low watt chips, they are years ahead of most everyone else when it comes to fabrication, this means they can sort of "cheat" by having more efficient chips solely because of their die advantage.

it really won't be long before intel can put out chips for tablets and phones that are competitive with ARM in terms of power draw, however they will absolutely destroy ARM in terms of processing power

this just seems like ARM getting scared to me, because they know just how quickly things can turn around. They very well may be the juggernaut of the smart phone / tablet world, but that could easily change, they know that they have to crush Intel now in order to have a chance, I just don't see that happening.
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post #24 of 76
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It's because it's already entrenched and makes no sense to force software developers to suddenly switch to using a whole new set of instructions and deal with ridiculous amounts of incompatibility issues. It's not that one couldn't be more efficient, it's just that it wouldn't make sense for Intel to suddenly stop making x86 chips and start using another architecture... Like Itanium.
Stop spewing nonsense.

What are you talking about ?!?!?! Did you even read past that sentence ?!?!?! That is what I said!

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The power consumption seems to be great while offering better performance:
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Intel is late, but so is Nvidia. Tegra 3 has been out for only four months and its graphics were already obsolete and the processor soon to be with Krait.
Well to be fair, he did say similar things later in the paragraph tongue.gif
ARM isn't really more "efficient" than x86 is. Once you start adding more features in line with x86, ARM's power consumption will be right up there. The only difference is that you have two x86 manufacturers that have 20+ years of experience. ARM is an infant.


True, they are getting competitive and winning some metrics while still losing others; maybe I should have phrased it differently, but the main idea is that they probably couldn't have done that in the early 32 nm yields back in 2010, and, even today, you can't say that those performance numbers are serious competition - Intel is still new in the market and those performance numbers are not revolutionary enough (and let's see how many of them they can produce with that power envelope) to convince everybody to switch, it is good competition, but it's still not serious competition - that will happen starting with 22 nm.

Oh, and thanks for stepping in to defend me. I am getting used to people not reading news articles and only the quoted paragraph, but this was honestly... I am speechless LOL.
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this article makes me LoL. arm might sell twice as many chips but lets not forget that even intel's mainstream chips are over 10 times more expensive and they make around 100 times more in net profits. Not to mention that the fastest arm chips are around 6 times slower than the fastest intel chips. Don't get me wrong, im no fan of the intel's greed corp but pitting arm vs intel in hopes of "crushing" the latter is just ridiculous.
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You can hardly call it greed when you do something your good at. Its more like its profession. smile.gif
     
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i highly doubt that the largest intel share holders do much anything related to engineering chips these days
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I can't help feeling that much of the bashing is coming from people who are US citizens? I hope I'm wrong...
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This was predictable: ARM is now in "Eat or be eaten" PR mode. There really is nothing more they can do however, Intel will win.
Why is Intel sticking with x86 ? Sure they could have come up with a more efficient architecture by now, right ? But then again, the CPUs Intel has been making since the Pentium Pro are all RISC anyway.

I thought Intel was CISC and AMD was RISC?
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ARM crushing intel pfffffffffft dont think so............
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