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I can't help feeling that much of the bashing is coming from people who are US citizens? I hope I'm wrong...

Bashing ARM or bashing intel?

I hate intel because they are destroying the desktop/laptop segment because they are so far ahead of AMD. I also hate intel because everyone has this idea that they are "untouchable." However, ARM has proven that this is not the case. They may be a super power for desktop/laptop computers, but for the mobile device market, which is very VERY profitable and growing continuously, ARM has a marketshare that is untouchable.

ARM is finally in a position to begin a crusade against intel and knock them off their high horse. I for one welcome it.
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ARM crushing intel pfffffffffft dont think so............

I do.

X86 isn't anywhere as scalable as ARM is.
   
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Bashing ARM I meant biggrin.gif
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post #34 of 76
I thought that single core intel chip they showed this year was on par with the dual core ARM CPUs.
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Well considering Windows 8 & Windows On ARM (WOA), there is a GREAT chance that indeed ARMH can come out ahead, with so many fans of mobile tech out there, I'd say this isn't far from the truth!

However, I'd like to add that, while ARM is cool and all, don't count Intel out of the race, hardly, indeed they are manufacturing new technology and their focus is now clearly mobile / lower power consumption. Furthermore ARMH may be in for a bit of a fight if they want to take that billion dollar profitable corporation out of the equation.

We Desktop / PC Users are thinning in numbers, though I doubt we will ever become extinct. biggrin.gif
Edited by _GTech - 3/11/12 at 9:37am
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post #36 of 76
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ARM crushing intel pfffffffffft dont think so............

Not really.

This Wiki Article explains it fairly well, but if you're not feeling like reading a lot...

Basically, all CISC type modern architectures could be boiled down to a RISC-like design, or, perhaps you could see it the other way around.

To quote the wiki article: Compared to a small 8-bit CISC processor, a RISC floating-point instruction is complex. CISC does not even need to have complex addressing modes; 32 or 64-bit RISC processors may well have more complex addressing modes than small 8-bit CISC processors.


(Oh, and you probably meant ARM? AMD and Intel both use x86 processors?)
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I doubt ARM would make an x86 chip. There's only so much you can do in a CISC design to reduce power consumption without crippling performance. x86 needs to have the capability of executing literally hundreds of instructions now versus a few dozen in ARM. Personally I think it's far more likely that Intel/AMD will introduce a new RISC-based architecture for mobile devices. There isn't the huge issue of backwards compatability there like there is in the desktop/laptop realm. Plus if their platform grew popular enough they could slowly replace x86 with it.
 
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post #38 of 76
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I doubt ARM would make an x86 chip. There's only so much you can do in a CISC design to reduce power consumption without crippling performance. x86 needs to have the capability of executing literally hundreds of instructions now versus a few dozen in ARM. Personally I think it's far more likely that Intel/AMD will introduce a new RISC-based architecture for mobile devices. There isn't the huge issue of backwards compatability there like there is in the desktop/laptop realm. Plus if their platform grew popular enough they could slowly replace x86 with it.

Intel and AMD have not made cisc chips in decades. x86 exists in front end shape only, the actual chips are not cisc. That front end is what hurts them in ultra low power applications. Problem is, ARM is already very well established, so Intel and AMD get the choice of making x86 chips or ARM based, so they still cling to the hope that they can out engineer arm chip makers on manufacturing processes, which Intel might be able to pull off with 22nm.
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Uhhh.... you can tell from that paragraph that who ever wrote this is not in the industry.... or this article was aimed at people complete unaware of the industry.

Yup.
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If AMD cant crush Intel why does ARM feel they can. What a joke

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