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Ok i can save up for a nice PSU, i just didnt know it was THAT important.
He said to get a 3500, but according to the max stable oc chart the 3000 oc's better and its cheaper.
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Hehe, i just got back from washing and drying my dads car at 10 at night... 10 more bucks in my pocket

Well its almost 1 am, g2g thanks biatchi
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Originally Posted by ravicus
Hehe, i just got back from washing and drying my dads car at 10 at night... 10 more bucks in my pocket

sweet put it towards your new rig
    
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if you're looking for a cheaper stable psu, you should look into sparkle. They are supposed to be pretty stable and they are pretty cheap. You should do some more research first though cuz I'm not 100% sure but there's lots of reviews on newegg from satisfied customers.
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Originally Posted by exad
if you're looking for a cheaper stable psu, you should look into sparkle. They are supposed to be pretty stable and they are pretty cheap. You should do some more research first though cuz I'm not 100% sure but there's lots of reviews on newegg from satisfied customers.
FSP Sparkles(the 400w in particular) have a knack for staying within the 3% safe voltage limit(12.00V -> 12.36) and have two rails between 15-18A, providing as much as 320-360w on the 12V rail. If you're looking for cheap yet still want to overclock, they are certainly a good choice.

I was just talking to someone like you, and linked him to some parts...except unlike you, he's a lazy bum that plays DOTA all day long, and will never scrape together enough money.

I recommended he get something along this line:
Sempron 3000+
Biostar TForce 6100
1GB Generic DDR2
Nice case

Obviously you can scrap the case, since you only require a PSU.

The benefit of getting onboard video is you can skimp now, and save up for something better in a couple months. With the new 8 series set for release before Christmas, the 8800GTX should come down in price by ~April. Then you could pick up a card 2-4x faster than you chose for the same price. Heck, by Christmas you could probably find 7600GT's for $80, so IMHO that's the way to go; suffer for a while so you can have many more months of enjoyment later.

Don't forget a DVD burner!

Oh, and if you aren't convinced, read the first review on the Sempron CPU...

Edit: Forgot to mention; the Mobo can be combo'd with a Seagate 320GB HD. Those HDs are very sweet performance and reliability wise.
     
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post #15 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kramy
FSP Sparkles(the 400w in particular) have a knack for staying within the 3% safe voltage limit(12.00V -> 12.36) and have two rails between 15-18A, providing as much as 320-360w on the 12V rail. If you're looking for cheap yet still want to overclock, they are certainly a good choice.

I was just talking to someone like you, and linked him to some parts...except unlike you, he's a lazy bum that plays DOTA all day long, and will never scrape together enough money.

I recommended he get something along this line:
Sempron 3000+
Biostar TForce 6100
1GB Generic DDR2
Nice case

Obviously you can scrap the case, since you only require a PSU.

The benefit of getting onboard video is you can skimp now, and save up for something better in a couple months. With the new 8 series set for release before Christmas, the 8800GTX should come down in price by ~April. Then you could pick up a card 2-4x faster than you chose for the same price. Heck, by Christmas you could probably find 7600GT's for $80, so IMHO that's the way to go; suffer for a while so you can have many more months of enjoyment later.

Don't forget a DVD burner!

Oh, and if you aren't convinced, read the first review on the Sempron CPU...


Yup. FSP owns. Look for a cheap FSP source or whatever, and you're set.
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post #16 of 53
Hmm, would it be advisable going AM2? Because once you are older, you cna put together a nice K8L rig (asuming it is supported). So as Kramy suggested an AM2 sempron would be good. However, with the ridiculous prices of DDR2...
post #17 of 53
what do you want to use the computer for?
that processor seems fine, but personally if i had such a small budget i'd get an AM2 sempron since AM2 is upgradable and sempron's are VERY overclockable and VERY cheap.
then, i'd start it off with at the very least 512mb of ddr2 memory, if you can afford it get 1024mb.
we'll figure out a motherboard for you later, but if you're gaming then you'll need a graphics card..

however, i can't suggest that you do any of this until you tell us what you plan on using the computer for. if you want to build a budget multithreaded rig then i'd suggest a pentium d 805 - VERY overclockable, and dual core

either way, you're looking at a minimum of $250 here.
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post #18 of 53
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250? Pshht I was already looking at something like 430... I was gonna go AM2 Athlon 64 3000+, you pay 5 bucks more and get 512 kb L2 Cache. Anyways, i plan on using it for light gaming(and i know RAM, and Video are important) but i can suffer until i get enough to buy 1 gb of GEIL ram now(for 120).

I guess sempron is better for gaming and OC'ing

No major games as im not allowed to play anything above teen and most good ones are above teen nowadays.


Edit:Will a 20+4 pin PSU be able to hook into a 24 pin mobo?
Noobish Question but needs to be answered.

Edit 2:Whats so great about Opterons?
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post #19 of 53
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Dangit...


75 Dollars for BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Mobo w/ onboard video.

23 Dollars for ARTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro

54 Dollars for 160 GIG 8 MB Cache HDD

120 Dollars for
GeIL Ultra Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

51 Dollars for AMD Sempron 64 3000+ Manila 256 kb L2 Cache

67 Dollars for Fortron Source Blue Storm 400 Watt PSU

Total:390...

MUCH higher than i thought it would be... I have 2 ways to decrease this number

1. Get a less flashy PSU

2. get 512 of RAM to start.

Today i will mow the lawn... 10 dollars there and then i will ask for more jobs I WANT MY COMPUTER


Edit:Heres the updated version(im taking the directors advice and my previous instinct)

75 Dollars for BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Mobo w/ onboard video.

Stock HSF

54 Dollars for 160 GIG 8 MB Cache HDD

120 Dollars for
GeIL Ultra Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

51 Dollars for AMD Sempron 64 3000+ Manila 256 kb L2 Cache

44 Dollars for 75 Dollars for BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Mobo w/ onboard video.

54 Dollars for 160 GIG 8 MB Cache HDD

120 Dollars for
GeIL Ultra Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
80 Dollars for
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Orleans 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail

44 Dollars for Sparkle 400 Watt PSU
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post #20 of 53
If you can swing it, get a 1G stick of RAM, that allows for the optimum upgradability down the road.
The PS usually come with 20/24 pin to cover both applications.
Also, avoid the Sempy if you can, they have very small on die cache.
The best low buck AM2 Athalon would be an Orleans with 512 cache vs the Sempys 128 or 256.

BTW, the retail CPUs HSF would do ok for now so long as you don't get to much voltage hungry. Then you could up the cooling later as necessary.
    
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