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I've seen so many varying temperature maximums for these things. I have pretty decent cooling, but some case reorganization is going to alleviate some of the issue. (should have gotten a modular PSU)

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I'm showing operating temps in the mid 40s to low 50s range. I feel like this is a safe range to be in. Using LinX to test i've seen it hit 60, but that's benchmarking, not normal load.

This is a newer processor that is the 125w TDP as well.

What operating ranges are ok?

At what temp should i just stop the benchmark test to be safe?

I plan on pushing this higher if it's capable after fixing the case air flow issue
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post #2 of 17
The 24/7 Max temp for Phenom II's is 62C. Most people like to keep it under 55C for normal use to prevent errors. 62C is plenty safe but you might experience errors, that's all.
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Originally Posted by rogha189 View Post

I've seen so many varying temperature maximums for these things. I have pretty decent cooling, but some case reorganization is going to alleviate some of the issue. (should have gotten a modular PSU)
Mobo: MSI 970A-G46
Coolermax Hyper 212 Plus with Arctic Silver 5.
16GB DDR3 1600mhz
4000.21 MhZ (200.01 x 20.0)
CPU V: 1.432
CPU NB: 1.35
NB: 1.1
I'm showing operating temps in the mid 40s to low 50s range. I feel like this is a safe range to be in. Using LinX to test i've seen it hit 60, but that's benchmarking, not normal load.
This is a newer processor that is the 125w TDP as well.
What operating ranges are ok?
At what temp should i just stop the benchmark test to be safe?
I plan on pushing this higher if it's capable after fixing the case air flow issue

I never like to exceed 50 Celsius, but the max would be 55. tongue.gif
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I never like to exceed 50 Celsius, but the max would be 55. tongue.gif

Too late! wink.gif
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I had seen the 62 previously and thought that sounded right. Think i'll just let 4 GHZ be my high end for the time being. Maybe once I'm ready to switch to an FX series i'll see what i can take it to. Thanks and +Rep
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post #6 of 17
62c is the max. People say to stay under 55c because it can affect stability but not the longevity of the chip. In saying that, every chip is different. My 965 would hit 60c regularly but would not BSOD or anything.
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post #7 of 17
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I had seen the 62 previously and thought that sounded right. Think i'll just let 4 GHZ be my high end for the time being. Maybe once I'm ready to switch to an FX series i'll see what i can take it to. Thanks and +Rep

Cool, thanks. thumb.gif
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Update: After some case rearrangement (which was a pain with this case because i didnt get a modular PSU) I got the temps down significantly. I'm seing Idle speeds in the low 40s and normal load right around 50. Benchmarking with the p never pushed it past 52C @ 4.0 GHZ 200x20 // 1.42v.
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Seems like high idle temps for only 1.43v. How are your ambients? How do you have your CPU cooler rigged? push/pull? Which direction does the airflow go? Vertically or horizontally?
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post #10 of 17
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I could certainly use another heatsink fan, but I think it's the case's overall airflow. The lack of a modular power supply seems to be the problem. I have the excess wires bundled in the bottom front of the case where nothing is, but as to the "feel" that is where all the heat is coming from in the case. The case itself has a mesh front with a HDD bracket that has a 120mm fan on it. This is mounted in the top of the case to push over the SSD/HDD and into the top of the case (bottom mounted PSU). I have a push fan on the heatsink with no rear exhaust fan (though it has a clear shot to push out. I have an exhaust fan on the rear top of the case as well. The PSU has a 130mm fan which pushes out the bottom of the case (which is sat up on a milk crate as well to allow for airflow).

I think all this goes a way towards explaining the heat spikes my 6970 lightning is getting under heavy load (high 70s to low 80s) as there is no proper airflow over the bottom of hit, but the top of the case seems to be managed well enough. I may have been a little overgenerous with the AS5 i applied, perhaps should try removing it and reapplying. At stock speeds I'm seeing idle temps around 35 @ 1.4v, still maxing out at 50C, but ambient temperature has been up when it went under load last.

edit: typos
Edited by rogha189 - 3/14/12 at 10:21am
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