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How would the SB GPU output to two displays? You might be better off getting a cheap GPU, maybe one can be powered by the SB GPU (HD 3000?) and the other bu the PCI-E GPU, but I'm not sure you can use both so the PCI-E GPU might have to run both.
I've built a computer using a SB CPU using the integrated HD 3000 GPU and I don't remember if it could run two displays, I didn't test it out.

SB IGP works fine on 2 screens. you can even use it together with discreet cards for more then 2 screens. lucidlogix is developing that. the future of GPU tech can be very interesting if lucidlogix is successful in their quest in combining GPU power. imagining doing SLi between a 680gtx and a HD7970 and use the ivybridge IGP as a physx processor biggrin.gif
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SB IGP works fine on 2 screens. you can even use it together with discreet cards for more then 2 screens. lucidlogix is developing that. the future of GPU tech can be very interesting if lucidlogix is successful in their quest in combining GPU power. imagining doing SLi Crossfire between a 680gtx and a HD7970 and use the ivybridge IGP as a physx processor biggrin.gif

Fixed that for ya. thumb.gif Crossfire scales better.

I vote for the Llano rig. Unless you are running very ipc based tasks (she probably won't), the Llano will be exactly the same. Llano is a very well rounded chip.
     
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if the i5 feels right, cool for you, but grap a gtx430
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_876&products_id=15821

cheapest nividia gpu on pc, case gear, nividia, is a bit better fo gpu computing such as photoshop ( okay the 7970 is better than nividia, but thats a bit over the top right biggrin.gif )
, this will end up with a stronger build than lano, but it does cost more, thumb.gif
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Fixed that for ya. thumb.gif Crossfire scales better.
I vote for the Llano rig. Unless you are running very ipc based tasks (she probably won't), the Llano will be exactly the same. Llano is a very well rounded chip.

well.... technically speaking, it would be lucidlogix hydra technology which is independent of the SLi or Crossfire implementations. the GPU is simply used as a .... well GPU biggrin.gif the process of distributing workload is actually handled by the hydra chip independently. essentially it's similar to a GPU cloud implementation, where the hardware infrastructure can be independent of eachother. so you CAN mix nvidia/AMD/intel GPU's and have them all work towards the same goal of rendering the game you are playing.

for example, mixing a 8800gtx with a hd7970. obviously the 7970 is a MUCH more powerful card so maybe 70% of the workload of rendering would be sent to the 7970 and only 30% of the rendering workload would be sent to the 8800gtx. once the processing is done, the hydra chip reassemble the rendered image from those multiple sources and send it to the monitor(s).

in its current implementation, it's a disaster biggrin.gif however, with further development, faster bus, and more powerful chips, it may open the doors to heterogeneous GPU environment within the same machine. why sell that 8800gtx when you can use it along with your brand spanking new 7970 and add 25% performance to your game? why let the ivybridge IGP sit idle if it can add another 5% to your frame rate?

it's similar to openCL where they try to mix GPU power with CPU power to process things other then games/rendering. it's not there yet, it might never get there, but it's a step in the right direction IMO.
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I cant help but think all this talk we are having is moot point since ivybridge is so close and you'll just end up building ivybridge for yourself and mum gets the leftover parts from your current PC biggrin.gif
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Yea... hey...
A budget would help.

Otherwise, I would go with an i3 2100. Good intel CPU for Adobe CS4, but still budget. Is this her business PC or does she use CS4 for her own personal interest?
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well.... technically speaking, it would be lucidlogix hydra technology which is independent of the SLi or Crossfire implementations. the GPU is simply used as a .... well GPU biggrin.gif the process of distributing workload is actually handled by the hydra chip independently. essentially it's similar to a GPU cloud implementation, where the hardware infrastructure can be independent of eachother. so you CAN mix nvidia/AMD/intel GPU's and have them all work towards the same goal of rendering the game you are playing.
for example, mixing a 8800gtx with a hd7970. obviously the 7970 is a MUCH more powerful card so maybe 70% of the workload of rendering would be sent to the 7970 and only 30% of the rendering workload would be sent to the 8800gtx. once the processing is done, the hydra chip reassemble the rendered image from those multiple sources and send it to the monitor(s).
in its current implementation, it's a disaster biggrin.gif however, with further development, faster bus, and more powerful chips, it may open the doors to heterogeneous GPU environment within the same machine. why sell that 8800gtx when you can use it along with your brand spanking new 7970 and add 25% performance to your game? why let the ivybridge IGP sit idle if it can add another 5% to your frame rate?
it's similar to openCL where they try to mix GPU power with CPU power to process things other then games/rendering. it's not there yet, it might never get there, but it's a step in the right direction IMO.

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On a more serious note, she works from home doing translation and web design.
Budget < $750 AUD
She'll be expecting to use this for a while... her current computer is turning 5 soon mad.gif That's why I chose the i5. also I've only ever built an Intel system.
Probably it will be IB and 1600mhz ram. Is the rest of the system OK?
I'm reusing a 500GB HDD (seagate es.2) and just wondering whether anything won't fit or any obvious better choices.
Edited by timpattinson - 3/12/12 at 3:07am
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I suppose the core i5 will last you quite a bit. If anything wait for Ivy Bridge since pricing will be the same as SB and it will offer some better performance. Also consider in getting more memory (especially considering how cheap it is right now). Then again 8GB should be good enough for anything besides serious server computing. Like what kind of rendering in Adobe CS can fill it all up. As for firefox, only a million browser tabs open at once can create a memory shortage.
Other than that everything looks good.
Also, what about networking? Like don't you also need a wireless card for this?
The case is good, the power supply is over rated (450 watts is about 4x what the system would typically use if paired with IB), and the CPU is more powerful than what most people would use such a PC for (really Adobe CS is going to be by far the most demanding program she would use out of the ones you mentioned).
Try looking at another retailer as the selection for m-itx boards is really small. While the ASRock board looks fine, there may be better boards out there that may prove to be more reliable and whatnot.
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I will end up waiting for IB since it's coming out so soon, but I'll get the h61 motherboard and i5 2500 equivalent.
The only other motherboard I can get is the Gigabyte GA-H61N-USB3 which lacks SATA 6gbps ports that the Asrock has.
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The only other motherboard I can get is the Gigabyte GA-H61N-USB3 which lacks SATA 6gbps ports that the Asrock has.

6Gbit/s not very important for a drive which can only manage 150MB/s in best case. But speaking of drives, the best performance boost you could add to that build is SSD. A system which is mostly used for web design does not need a faster CPU, RAM nor motherboard, but an SSD. Your Mum's not doing major rendering or something, even if she is doing that occasionally, she isn't going to notice 30% difference between a cheaper CPU and one twice the price. So you can drop down to i3-2100, and the 300W version of the SG05 and get a 64MB SSD instead thumb.gif
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