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Old windows 95 or whatever recovery disks used a ramdisk (they loaded DOS), since you generally just had a floppy drive and would need to put another floppy in. Heck I think they were used back before all computers had hard drives for similar reasons.

Actually, I don't think they even bothered creating RAM disks. I think what they do is just load the entire program into memory. Some of the older (K)ubuntu Live CDs do the same thing (I believe they had a 512MB RAM minimum requirement for running live).
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In the first place, RAM is volatile. Unless you never shut down your PC and you never get any power interruptions, you'd need to flush the contents of the RAM disk to some form of permanent storage every so often. The easiest way (unless you have oodles of RAM) is to create one RAM disk image per game and to just load whatever game image you want to play at the moment.
Very interesting indeed...

How long does it usually take to save or load a 9-12GB RAMDisk, assuming I'm working with an SSD?

This is fun stuff.
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In the first place, RAM is volatile. Unless you never shut down your PC and you never get any power interruptions, you'd need to flush the contents of the RAM disk to some form of permanent storage every so often. The easiest way (unless you have oodles of RAM) is to create one RAM disk image per game and to just load whatever game image you want to play at the moment.
Very interesting indeed...

How long does it usually take to save or load a 9-12GB RAMDisk, assuming I'm working with an SSD?

This is fun stuff.
Depends on the speeds of the SSD and the compression of the data being transfered.

Say you have a SSD 500MB/s read 300MB/s write.

You have 15GB game/iso.It will take you 2 seconds per GB to load the game into the RAM = ~30 seconds for 15GB.It will take ~50 seconds for write.
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Depends on the speeds of the SSD and the compression of the data being transfered.

Say you have a SSD 500MB/s read 300MB/s write.

You have 15GB game/iso.It will take you 2 seconds per GB to load the game into the RAM = ~30 seconds for 15GB.It will take ~50 seconds for write.

This pretty much. Copy/transfer speeds would depend on the drive you're loading from/offloading to. Assuming your Samsung 830's are in RAID-0 configuration, then loading a 15GB image would probably take 15 seconds @ 1GB/s sequential read. biggrin.gif

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You can use steam mover or symbolic links. I don't use ramdisks for games myself.

One consideration why I recommended the load image to RAM disk route instead of Steam Mover is because reading/writing one big image (basically sequential read/write) should be much quicker compared to reading/writing a game folder with thousands of small files. I don't really game much nowadays so I haven't actually tried this for games but that's the route I take for my portable apps folder.

P.S.
Using a RAM disk does introduce some overhead. I wouldn't recommend loading 10GB games to RAM disk if you only have 16GB of RAM. You don't want to have a situation like the following: 2GB RAM system, 2GB RAM available, 12GB RAM RAMDisk (game), and then have the game hitting the page file continuously because majority of your RAM is in use by the RAM disk and you only have 2GB RAM useable.
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I've already used this command to set the firefox folder in my ramdisk:

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mklink /j %appdata%\mozilla\firefox P:\

Is it ok it will be caching everything from the SSD or I need to tweak another options... I also set the cache folder in about:config like the FIRST POST said.

NOW... I would like to back it up not only when it shutdowns but IM USING SOFTPERFECT ram disk is there another way than using the .bat files and schedule the task? or I will need to use that one?
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I've already used this command to set the firefox folder in my ramdisk:
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mklink /j %appdata%\mozilla\firefox P:\
Is it ok it will be caching everything from the SSD or I need to tweak another options... I also set the cache folder in about:config like the FIRST POST said.
NOW... I would like to back it up not only when it shutdowns but IM USING SOFTPERFECT ram disk is there another way than using the .bat files and schedule the task? or I will need to use that one?

Just set the cache of firefox to a RAMDISK, not the whole Firefox Profile Folder.
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In case anyone wants to see some 10GB RAMDisk benchmarks, and comparisons to two Crucial M4 512GB's in RAID 0 for Read speeds: http://computerhardwareupgrades.blogspot.com/2012/10/ramdisk-benchmarks.html

Another great guide Sean, gonna gleam what I can off of all the uses for RAMDisks. I tried using RAMDisk for Intel SRT, too bad Intel RST doesn't recognize the RAMDisk.
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In case anyone wants to see some 10GB RAMDisk benchmarks, and comparisons to two Crucial M4 512GB's in RAID 0 for Read speeds: http://computerhardwareupgrades.blogspot.com/2012/10/ramdisk-benchmarks.html

Another great guide Sean, gonna gleam what I can off of all the uses for RAMDisks. I tried using RAMDisk for Intel SRT, too bad Intel RST doesn't recognize the RAMDisk.

Don't be concerned about the higher CPU usage when running the benchmark. It's most likely just the benchmark software needing more CPU power to max out the RAM Disk. If you're interested in using part of the RAM as HDD (or even SSD) cache, you might want to check out FancyCache.
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Don't be concerned about the higher CPU usage when running the benchmark. It's most likely just the benchmark software needing more CPU power to max out the RAM Disk. If you're interested in using part of the RAM as HDD (or even SSD) cache, you might want to check out FancyCache.
Sweet, I'll check that out.

Also, if anyone is getting BSOD errors and if you have Acronis installed, remove the snapapi and install this one: http://kb.acronis.com/content/15097
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I presently have 4 gb RAM ...soon to be 12gb. I want to set up a RamDisk to take care of FireFox and my Windows Temporary Folder. Problem is I don't know how much of the 12gb to allocate to the task. What happens as data is added to it ? Does it get full ? Does it flush older unused files...write over them ? This would seem to be a determining factor in choosing how large to make the Disk.

So ,how about it some of you guys that have experience in this endeavor...can you give me some guidance?
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