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Both of these depend on what you are doing.

So any recommendations on how to tell how much of my ram I really need? Open the programs I generally use and look at task manager? I currently only have 8Gb, I'm thinking that would only leave me maybe 2Gb to do a Ramdisk with. However, if I can find good reasoning behind this, I'll buy more ram. I was planning on an SSD, which I still might to load my OS on, but if the ramdisk is considerably faster...

My computer is primarily a gaming computer. Obviously I can't make a Ramdisk large enough to hold WoW or BF3, so is it worth it just to load chrome on? That's abotu the only thing I can think of that I could put on it. What else is there? lol

Sorry these questions are so open ended, I'm just trying to figure out if any of the real benefit/practical applications apply to me.

You get an SSD to speed up your system as a whole. Boot time and windows just feels faster. Can't really do that with ramdisk.

Get a SSD. No way a RAM disk is going to = what a SSD will bring you.

As for size of a RAM disk, it depends on what you are using it for. I have a 1GB RAM Disk I use for my photo editing cache.
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Get a SSD. No way a RAM disk is going to = what a SSD will bring you.
As for size of a RAM disk, it depends on what you are using it for. I have a 1GB RAM Disk I use for my photo editing cache.

Photo editing? So you put photoshop or the program on it? Or the actual pictures?

So you have 8gb ram and only sacrificed 1gb for a ramdisk?
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Get a SSD. No way a RAM disk is going to = what a SSD will bring you.
As for size of a RAM disk, it depends on what you are using it for. I have a 1GB RAM Disk I use for my photo editing cache.

Photo editing? So you put photoshop or the program on it? Or the actual pictures?

So you have 8gb ram and only sacrificed 1gb for a ramdisk?

I use it for my Adobe Lightroom 3 cache folder. All my current images are on my secondary SSD. It helps a lot when editing through bunch of pics at a time.

I only need a 1GB RAM Disk for my task. I am however getting 16-32GB when I upgrade my system so i can run my VMs, games, and whatever else I can think of off of it. biggrin.gif
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I use it for my Adobe Lightroom 3 cache folder. All my current images are on my secondary SSD. It helps a lot when editing through bunch of pics at a time.
I only need a 1GB RAM Disk for my task. I am however getting 16-32GB when I upgrade my system so i can run my VMs, games, and whatever else I can think of off of it. biggrin.gif

Cool, well thanks for the ideas. I was planning on using your SSD guide as well when I get one. Just waiting for this deployment to be over!
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No problem. smile.gif

Good luck and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
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So any recommendations on how to tell how much of my ram I really need? Open the programs I generally use and look at task manager? I currently only have 8Gb, I'm thinking that would only leave me maybe 2Gb to do a Ramdisk with. However, if I can find good reasoning behind this, I'll buy more ram. I was planning on an SSD, which I still might to load my OS on, but if the ramdisk is considerably faster...
My computer is primarily a gaming computer. Obviously I can't make a Ramdisk large enough to hold WoW or BF3, so is it worth it just to load chrome on? That's abotu the only thing I can think of that I could put on it. What else is there? lol
Sorry these questions are so open ended, I'm just trying to figure out if any of the real benefit/practical applications apply to me.
You get an SSD to speed up your system as a whole. Boot time and windows just feels faster. Can't really do that with ramdisk.

Get an SSD for the OS and programs and just put the Chrome cache on your RAMDisk. Doing that made pages load a bit faster but I didn't see any further improvement from placing the browser itself on the RAMDisk. Programs like Chrome already open just about instantly from an SSD.
     
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So any recommendations on how to tell how much of my ram I really need? Open the programs I generally use and look at task manager? I currently only have 8Gb, I'm thinking that would only leave me maybe 2Gb to do a Ramdisk with. However, if I can find good reasoning behind this, I'll buy more ram. I was planning on an SSD, which I still might to load my OS on, but if the ramdisk is considerably faster...
My computer is primarily a gaming computer. Obviously I can't make a Ramdisk large enough to hold WoW or BF3, so is it worth it just to load chrome on? That's abotu the only thing I can think of that I could put on it. What else is there? lol
Sorry these questions are so open ended, I'm just trying to figure out if any of the real benefit/practical applications apply to me.
You get an SSD to speed up your system as a whole. Boot time and windows just feels faster. Can't really do that with ramdisk.

For most uses, a RAM drive won't really be perceptibly faster than an SSD. Only if you do something that is massively I/O bound will you really notice a difference.

A small ram drive is a good idea for temp files and browser cache, because these are written to very frequently and running them off the RAM drive will spare your SSD quite a bit of wear and tear. They are also good for a general scratch disk for similar reasons. I often extract, delete, compile, etc, to/from my ram drives then save the finish product to a physical drive later. For similar reason I also do most of the setting up of my VMs on a RAM drive, because it involves lots of random writes that would waste write/erase cycles on an SSD, or be vastly slower on an HDD. When I'm done I usually run the VMs off a HDD though.

I have more games installed than will fit on my SSDs, and often copy the more I/O bound ones to a RAM drive off the HDD where they are nominally installed. This takes quite a bit of memory, but I have two systems with 24GiB, and two more with 16GiB, so devoting 8-12GiB to a game usually isn't a big deal.

I've considered setting up a 10 gigabit network at my place and having a persistent ramdrive in the 128GiB range on a cheapo Opteron file server so I can consolidate some of my stuff that needs faster access. SSDs would be cheaper, but I would be doing huge amounts of writes, and MLC SSDs probably wouldn't last very long.
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Could you do a guide for a program other than browsers? A game perhaps?
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I highly doubt that you can fit a game inside a RAMDrive. Do you have 12GB (avg game?) of spare RAM?
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Could you do a guide for a program other than browsers? A game perhaps?
...use junctions/symbolic links: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

Remember what ever you put on the RAM drive can disappear for ever in a power outage or something due to RAM being volatile memory.
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I highly doubt that you can fit a game inside a RAMDrive. Do you have 12GB (avg game?) of spare RAM?
lol, cant wait for 32GB of RAM biggrin.gif
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