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This news is old. Not the same article but this was talked about back in 2010.

http://www.overclock.net/t/796354/engadget-inhabitats-week-in-green/0_50

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/08/inhabitats-week-in-green-lenses-that-magnify-wind-spider-silk/

The idea still sounds promising. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Mr_Torch View Post

Those turbines look like Stargates, hope no one tries to walk through one while it is spinning tongue.gif
Here in Oklahoma we have a constant wind.
Why is it so windy in Oklahoma ?
Because Kansas blows and Texas sucks biggrin.giftongue.gif
Had to say it haha

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I would have liked to read the article, but I don't follow links when I can't see where they end up. That said, wind power has the possibility to help generate a sizable portion of our energy needs and so increases in it's efficiency are certainly welcome, however the drawbacks are enough to make me question that value. If we were to install as many windfarms as needed to fulfill these scenarios do we also wipe out every bird species that inhabits or passes through these area's within north america? We always read that these small scale windfarms have significant bird kill rates, but we never see this addressed in articles talking about wind powers potential.

And I always have a hard time believing claims like "Triple the efficiency!". They never pan out.
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what everyone needs to realize is that as soon as we make a serious switch to the electric car, our electricity need will skyrocket, and that number won't be 26.6 billion anymore.
the only relatively safe and effective energy source moving forward is nuclear power. we need to practice with it anyway if we're ever going to become a space-faring race and find those Prothean ruins on mars. i can pretty much guarantee you we're not going to be flying into space and other planets strapped to windmills.
we've already harnessed the atom for uses involving killing the living **** out of each other, now its time to use it to help.
but yeah no seriously, just drop the nuclear waste in an active volcano. lava melts it, problem solved.

Brilliant! Cause volcano's never erupt or anything. Yes your brilliant idea can ensure that the next time the volcano erupts (in 500 years, or 1000 years or whenever) instead of dumping fertile ash over thousands of square kilometers we will have a nuclear wasteland. Instead of renewing the land and ensuring future generations have rich farmland after an eruption we can give them all higher cancer rates. Yes with brilliant idea's like yours we're sure to see a shift in public opinion about the viability of nuclear power. Brilliant.
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Originally Posted by SpankyMcFlych View Post

I would have liked to read the article, but I don't follow links when I can't see where they end up.

You must really hate URL shorterners. thumb.gif
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post #35 of 45
Time to take all my fan shrouds and use them to generate moar power!
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I just don't see wind power as the solution. The turbines take up a lot of space, don't like storms very much, and there are only certain areas they will be effective enough to be useful. I could see moving the power over the distance needed to cover the low-wind areas being inefficient enough to negate the benefit of these new designs. Plus they should consider where our population growth is taking us, we might not have that much land to spare at some point.

Price-per-watt isn't the only consideration in real-life application... mellowsmiley.gif
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Brilliant! Cause volcano's never erupt or anything. Yes your brilliant idea can ensure that the next time the volcano erupts (in 500 years, or 1000 years or whenever) instead of dumping fertile ash over thousands of square kilometers we will have a nuclear wasteland. Instead of renewing the land and ensuring future generations have rich farmland after an eruption we can give them all higher cancer rates. Yes with brilliant idea's like yours we're sure to see a shift in public opinion about the viability of nuclear power. Brilliant.

I don't think it's that simple, but I agree with you that it's not a viable solution. Nuclear reprocessing needs to be reinstated, it's the only good solution.
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"Some major wind projects like the proposed TWE Carbon Valley project in Wyoming are already pricing in significantly lower than coal power -- $80 per MWh for wind versus $90 per MWh for coal -- and that is without government subsidies using today's wind turbine technology. "

If it's cheaper I think they should use more of it. Regardless of the current economics surrounding oil and nuclear, we know that those are not permanent sources of power, this can be. Coastal generators should probably be looked into for mass scale implementation first though, as most of the world's population lives by the ocean.
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Nuclear might not be the be all end all solution right now, but if Wind replaces Coal plants I am all for it.

Coal power plants are filthy, filthy... filthy beasts.
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It would be cool if they could design something like this to absorb hurricane winds.
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It would be cool if they could design something like this to absorb hurricane winds.

I think this would be a huge help in more ways than one; one of the biggest negatives of wind power right now is how destructive they are when high winds pull them apart.

I recall reading a story about one coming apart and sending shrapnel for miles...
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