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Nvidia are doing the whole 480 again, if you buy a 680 now at this price point its price will half by the time the 780 comes out, waste of money buying a 680 it will break your heart when you see its value in 6 months.
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X are doing the whole Y again, if you buy a Z now at this price point its price will half by the time the F comes out, waste of money buying a Z it will break your heart when you see its value in 6 months.

Yeah, well, welcome to the world of hardware, mr. captain obvious. Guess what, the market for smartphones is even faster.
     
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I don't see how never having an issue before protects you from issues in the future.
I just have an issue with you claiming you aren't biased when you are.

Not sure what you call someone who buys both brands almost every generation for his computers, and forms an opinion based on experience...? Past experience usually predicts future performance, it's a basic tenet of life wink.gif, if you don't understand why someone would shy away from something that keeps burning them and be looking at something that keeps working properly for them... I don't know WHAT to think of you.
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Hmm
So if the 7970 came clocked out of the box 1100-1200Mhz, what route would NV have taken?
At 1200Mhz the 7970 is anywhere from 30% to 70% faster than a 580.

It would have been faster, just as every GPU would if it came overclocked right out of the box I guess...

The cards are designed to stay within certain specs though (thermal, clock skew and power envelope).
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GK110 will not be GTX 780. GK112 will be in October - December 2012. Besides, the true GTX 680 would be GK100 not GK110 which was scheduled for December all along.

Unless of course GK100 was never intended for release and actually serves as a "generational reference", internal to nVidia. Also, according to this Kepler roadmap which was leaked a while back, GK110 is a dual-GK104 GPU package. Whether that will translate directly into a dual-core package with discrete GPUs (think Intel i3) or is simply a single logical GPU which has been "bolted together" using two GK104 cores, remains to be seen. Remember that GK*** refers to GPU cores, not cards.
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...aside from possibly a dual GK104 card.

Interesting... smile.gif
Edited by parityboy - 3/12/12 at 4:25pm
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Unless of course GK100 was never intended for release and actually serves as a "generational reference", internal to nVidia. Also, according to this Kepler roadmap which was leaked a while back, GK110 is a dual-GK104 GPU package. Whether that will translate directly into a dual-core package with discrete GPUs (think Intel i3) or is simply a single logical GPU which has been "bolted together" using two GK104 cores, remains to be seen. Remember that GK*** refers to GPU cores, not cards.
Interesting... smile.gif

Yes, I know about the naming system wink.gif

GK100 isn't on that roadmap since it was scrapped early in the process. It was broken and had terrible physics and clock skew. GK110 taped out a month ago.
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Nvidia are doing the whole 480 again, if you buy a 680 now at this price point its price will half by the time the 780 comes out, waste of money buying a 680 it will break your heart when you see its value in 6 months.
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X are doing the whole Y again, if you buy a Z now at this price point its price will half by the time the F comes out, waste of money buying a Z it will break your heart when you see its value in 6 months.

Yeah, well, welcome to the world of hardware, mr. captain obvious. Guess what, the market for smartphones is even faster.

Wow, take it easy man. Relax super troll, I'm just saying when you want to buy a flagship card buy one that lasts its generation cycle unlike the GTX 480.

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GK110 will not be GTX 780. GK112 will be in October - December 2012. Besides, the true GTX 680 would be GK100 not GK110 which was scheduled for December all along. It just came in handy for nVidia that the HD7970 wasn't as good as a performer as they had anticipated so that they could counter it with their "GTX 660" in the end. That and low 28nm yields are what makes this a $500+ card since there won't be anything faster out for the time being -- aside from possibly a dual GK104 card.

You've "drank the Kool-aid" my friend. The whole "disappointed with 7970 performance" tack that Nvidia took is part of campaign to mitigate any losses from not having a competing product for several months after launch. They lost a lot of ground when the HD5000 series was out and Fermi was no where to be seen, that is why we have had all the "leaks" saying performance was going to be waaay beyond the 7970, that Kepler was "unbeatable", and why they decided to make this the GTX680.
Most likely we are going to see a GTX680 that trades blows with the 7970, beating it by small margins in TWIWMTBP games and performing closer to a 7950 in other games. As far as it being a "$500" gpu, this die is so small that even if they had yield problems they will still be making a lot of money on these cards. Performance and market demand are what drive price here more than the cost of the chips.
Edited by Mygaffer - 3/12/12 at 6:28pm
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It would have been faster, just as every GPU would if it came overclocked right out of the box I guess...
The cards are designed to stay within certain specs though (thermal, clock skew and power envelope).

Well of course, not the point.
I'm what iffing, what if the stock speed was 1.1-1.2, the conservative clocks may have saved us from extended price gouging from AMD.
Now NV can get a card out the door to at least compete while working on Big K.

Oh back to my point, would NV have sat on GK104 if it could not compete with a 1.1-.1.2 card?
Or went on and released it at $349-$450?

Let's face it, at 256/2gb of memory this card should not demand a $549 premium.
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Well of course, not the point.
I'm what iffing, what if the stock speed was 1.1-1.2, the conservative clocks may have saved us from extended price gouging from AMD.
Now NV can get a card out the door to at least compete while working on Big K.
Oh back to my point, would NV have sat on GK104 if it could not compete with a 1.1-.1.2 card?
Or went on and released it at $349-$450?
Let's face it, at 256/2gb of memory this card should not demand a $549 premium.

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i totally agree with you i have over 2000 save thinking i was going to buy 3 nvidia monster card, instead they release a midrange card that performs better then the 7970, kudos to them but ill just wait for gk110/112 in the summer. damn you amd for not pushing the competition
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